ForcedTorque's 3E5 has Arrived!!!!!
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ForcedTorque;1240613 said:
Damn, I hope you get better soon Scott! I guess the install for tomorrow is postponed? I was wondering why I have not heard from you. We have had bronchitis floating around my house. It is only a matter of time before I get it. I am usually the first!
Jim
ForcedTorque;1240785 said:
Scott, I don't know what type of surgery it is, but doctors are damn smart these days and I don't hesitate to let them do what they get paid the big bucks for. Six years ago, I couldn't walk half the time because of my back. Now I coach basketball, tball and play softball on a team every year. Trust them to do their job as well as you and I do ours. Only good things will come of it.........you have my word as a gentleman and a scholar.
Does a fifth grade edumacation qualify me as a scholar?
n2fishin69;1241099 said:
Jim,
I haven't gotten back to you yet, because I haven't spoken to Noah. I'm gonna call him around lunch today. I'm alot better today, and back at work. My plan is, if I still think I can handle it, is to get started tonight, and have the car at least up on jacks. Then I may try to remove the driveshaft and exhaust. Who knows, I may have the damn tranny out (I doubt it), but I want to do as much of it as I can.
I'll PM you once I talk to Noah.
I guess I gotta update the thread. I am in the middle of a clutch swap. Last Thursday night, I pulled the tranny, and found that my flywheel was burnt to hell and back, and the ARP bolts were in with a lock tight. I had to go buy a 12 point socket to even try to turn them. I tried to hold the motor with the crank pulley bolt, but I broke that 195 ft-lb bolt loose before I ever got any to move. On Saturday, I found a spare flywheel, and I took it to have it resurfaced, but they put me off until Monday. I tried to borrow a good impact from the auto parts, but they made me go to the warehouse to get it, and the order was written for a torque wrench instead. The warehouse requires you to go back to the store to have that fixed. So, knowing I needed to re torque the pulley bolt, I brought it home. I was able to get it torqued to 170 ft-lb, before the wrench would no longer stay on the FW bolts. Next, I went and bought a 1/4" piece of flat bar, to try and hold the FW still. I was able to get 2 of the bolts out before that was bent out of shape. After so much torque, it would flip up on it's side, and bend. Today, I am trying the rope in a cylinder trick. I have a good bit into the #6, but it is not as easy to get it in there as it sounds. I'm taking a break now from laying across the engine bay slowly stuffing rope with a pair of long needle nose. When I go back out, I will see if I have enough rope in the to get anything done. If I can get the bolts out, I have somebody to help (possibly) get the tranny back in. But, we have rain in the forecast, so work may get stopped short.
Sorry for the long rambling paragraph, but this has definitely been an adventure.
****EDIT****The motor is now stopped. Now, I'm going to light this bitch on fire!!!!!!!!! With two dedicated hands on the ratchet end for the first time, all I can do is round off the head of a bolt. What the hell do I do now??????????????????
Sorry for the long rambling paragraph, but this has definitely been an adventure.
****EDIT****The motor is now stopped. Now, I'm going to light this bitch on fire!!!!!!!!! With two dedicated hands on the ratchet end for the first time, all I can do is round off the head of a bolt. What the hell do I do now??????????????????
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Been said a lot, don't forget you need to be on the compression stroke(both valves closed)with the rope trick,or you WILL bend the valves.
I have never heard that! I'm not sure which stroke I'm on either. I was actually wondering about that as I stuffed rope. I have applied quite a bit of force to it already now, with no luck. What will I do if I round these bolts off and can't et them out. I'm at the end of my rope now. I'd rather not even go back under it.
buckshotglass
I love all your sounds.
That made me lol, sorry.ForcedTorque;1253169 said:
You need an impact gun. It will take two seconds.
Have you tried to spray them with a penetrating lube?I would recommend PB Blaster.Spray them,let them soak,repeat a couple times,let it soak for a couple hours though.Depending on which loctite was used on them,you may need to heat them up with a propane torch also(may need to heat them either way as that flywheel has been heat cycled rather extensively from the sounds of it).12 point bolts w/the correct socket are rather hard to round off.
buckshotglass;1253172 said:
That comment was written to make you laugh Dave. I was trying to mask my frustration with comedy. Now, what will take two seconds.....rounding completely, or can I possibly get them out?
toy fanatic78;1253176 said:
It is a yellow locktite. Does PB have an effect on locktite?
buckshotglass
I love all your sounds.
With an impact gun, if the bolts aren't already shot, they should come right out. I didn't need to stop the motor from spinning last time.
I'm gonna go see if I can have better luck this time borrowing an impact. Y'all cross your finger for me that I haven't already bent a valve. I guess I won't know that until after I get the tranny back in.
Are you sure it's loctite,(seen everything from nail polish to model paint used for threadlocker)loctite doesn't list a yellow loctite on their site.I think it's the red loctite that is supposed to be heated to remove.
The PB works well on bolts that are tough due to heat cycling,not sure how much of an effect it has on loctite,can't hurt though.
Buckshot:he went to get an impact,but they gave him a torque wrench instead.And an electric impact/air without good air supply wont do it either.
The PB works well on bolts that are tough due to heat cycling,not sure how much of an effect it has on loctite,can't hurt though.
Buckshot:he went to get an impact,but they gave him a torque wrench instead.And an electric impact/air without good air supply wont do it either.
Yeah you should have heated those. I know the red loctite has to be very hot to even think about breaking loose. That is why I never use anything stronger than the blue. These guys that talk about using the red on their balancer are insane. I have enough problems breaking mine loose with nothing on it. I wish I could offer advise on the rounded head, but thats going to be a tough one. They make and easy out style tool for bolt heads too. But if it was hard enough to get off that you rounded a 12 point head out, then I dont know that will help. Maybe the easy out and heat combined will do it.
I'm now back from a fruitless journey. I hit O'Reily's, Avanced auto, and Auto Zone, along with 2 pawn shops in between. At my last stop (AZ), they had both electrics and Campbell Hausfeld pneumatic for sale. Nobody will loan an impact! But, looking at their electric reminded me that I do have an electric in my shed that I could try before buying a junk C.H. I came home and tried it, and quickly spun around the bolt. It appears that there is more rounding in the socket.
Where's Jay???? Maybe he knows what is on these bolts. While viewing them in the daylight, the sealer looks to be more white than yellow.
Where's Jay???? Maybe he knows what is on these bolts. While viewing them in the daylight, the sealer looks to be more white than yellow.
gtsfirefighter
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Well, I went to Sears last night and bought a new sharp 12 point socket, and talked to the guy there about it. He said he was "a mechanic by trade" working at Sears for extra money. His advice was to use an air chisel to break it loose. If need be, go straight into it to cut a groove first. I'm going to try that tonight if it isn't too damn cold. I did not even touch the car yesterday.
buckshotglass
I love all your sounds.
Bummer.
I think would try a small pipe wrench and a cheater bar before the air chisel if there is room.
I think would try a small pipe wrench and a cheater bar before the air chisel if there is room.
Not a bad idea Dave, but I know it wouldn't sit flush due to the recess they sit in. I don't think anything is gonna stay on the head sitting on an angle with the type of torque that these are requiring. I've already rounded both the head of the bolt, and the inside of the socket on these things. That's why I was at Sears buying Craftsman. Part store sockets suck!