Been awhile since I've been on here. Got a question for all of you.

[cote006]

Few things.

First things first though.. A couple months ago i had to sell my supra, and now that I found this, I wish I hadn't... Anyway, long story short, sold the supra (was an mkiii) and i picked up a 1990 240sx with plans of putting a 2jz in it.

This is where my question comes in. I found a guy in my town with a 2jzge that has everything for the swap (minus the wiring labor i'll need to do to make it mate with the 240..) so this includes the engine, auto tranny (not gonna take that from him, I'll just save up and get the manual r154) wiring harness, and ecu.

He wants $1800 for the whole swap (that price includes auto tranny) and he said for $2000 he'd include his Garrett t3 38(? couldn't quite understand what he said after t3) turbo.

I'll include a list of the things he's done to it because he was originally building it to turbo it, but decided to go v8 instead.

Things he's done goes as follows:

valve seals replaced 9/10
alt rebuild 10/11
timing belt 12/10
p/s pump 8/10
serpentine belt 4/10
ngk r plugs 12/10
cap/ coil rotor 12/10
royal purple oil change and filter 12/11
egr delete
GTE headgasket. 9/10
ARP head studs 9/10
injector clips 8/12

The engine is still currently in his car, waiting to be pulled. He has it in so people can come listen to it for insurance that it does indeed still run with no engine knocks or funky sounds that it shouldn't have.

My plan is to pick it up when I have the money saved up which should only be a month and a half, two months max, then build it up outside of my car and get it all set up for a turbo set up, then and ONLY then will I install it. I'm not going to half-ass the job whatsoever. Do it once, do it right.

Is this a good deal on that engine? or is $1800 too much for the ge engine, harness, and turbo? again, not wanting the transmission.
I only want this engine because it is basically my dream engine haha. I have no intentions to rush the build, and I will wait for a better deal if this one isn't a good deal. I just figured if I could have the opportunity to do a local pick up and have something I can hear run before I buy it, and not have to pay shipping costs, it will be a lot smoother.

As of right now, I'm not too worried of how much it will cost to build a 2jzge na-t because I will have the funds, and I don't expect to have a full running swap over night. I'm going to take my time to make sure everything is right.

Anyway, what are your guys' thoughts on this deal? He told me to make him an offer for the whole swap minus the tranny, but I told him I don't know a whole lot on the auto tranny that those cars came with, and know mostly more about the r154.

What would you guys pay for this deal?

also if this is in the wrong section, could a mod move it?

Thank you for your time, any and all advice is welcome and appreciated a ton.

 

[kotu100]

IMO $1800 is waaaay too much to pay for a GE.
For that price you could find a gte.

 

[cote006]

awesome haha. I will have to look around and see what i can find.

 

[te72]

For reference, I paid $2200 for my engine, shipped to the shop, for my 1j setup, and that came with an R154. I live in the middle of nowhere too, so considering your location, you have PLENTY of available options on an engine. I guess another thing to consider, do you trust this guy enough to know that the work mentioned was actually done, and do you trust his mechanical skills to believe it was done right?

From the sounds of things, he might have put $600 into the thing. Worth $1800? Gotta be off your rocker if you think so.

Another reference point, I just picked up a 93 LS400 for $1100, with a small amount of cosmetic damage. The whole car. Runs like a champ too. I would suggest you save your cash, and when the time comes, jump on the right engine for you. For another $1000, which includes the shipping, you could be looking at a VVTI GTE.

 

[Grandavi]

VVTI GTE ftw!

 

[cote006]

sounds good! those are the answers i've been looking for. I knew it'd be better to ask here than the 240 forums because i know i would get flamed up the ass by those guys for putting a toyota engine in a nissan.

But sounds like I will save my cash and instead put it towards probably the handling aspects of the car, which is probably a better thing to do before an engine swap anyway.

thank you guys for the answers!

 

[te72]

sounds good! those are the answers i've been looking for. I knew it'd be better to ask here than the 240 forums because i know i would get flamed up the ass by those guys for putting a toyota engine in a nissan.

Seriously? If there is one group of people who can go jump off a cliff for criticizing someone for swapping an engine out, it would be, without fail, the 240 crowd. Say what you will, but I'm more surprised by a KA engine in one of those than by ANY swap.

 

[cote006]

Seriously? If there is one group of people who can go jump off a cliff for criticizing someone for swapping an engine out, it would be, without fail, the 240 crowd. Say what you will, but I'm more surprised by a KA engine in one of those than by ANY swap.

well some of the guys would look down upon it. there's one guy on the forum I'm on (240sxforums) that has a 2jzgte 240. a good 90% of the guys there though all go sr20. Which is what i DON'T want because thats what damn near everyone does. I don't wanna feel like i'm hopping on the sr20 bandwagon. That's why i've been looking 2jz.

But if that deal is overpriced, and i should be able to find a better deal, i will keep searching. i'll be looking into 1jz as well because that, too, is one hell of an engine.

 

[te72]

Eh, I dunno about the SR20... I've seen a few of them really well done, and from a handling perspective, they are well suited to the car (imagine that), but unless we're talking a bit built up or one of the newer NEO or VET variants, they're a little on the weak side.

 

[cote006]

i do have respect for the engine, because for the power you can get out of those 4 cylinders, it's pretty impressive, and its got a great aftermarket. I haven't completely tossed out the idea of the swap being as there's one for sale near me for $500 that needs a new piston and some head work. all in all $150 would get the motor running (according to ad poster.) I may want to look into it, see how much it will cost to get it all built how i'd want it. In reality, for now at least, I'm not looking for anymore than 450hp TOPS. I don't need anymore power than that. At least not for a car that will be built for just street driving. I'm not looking to build this car into a drift slut. if i decided to actually get into the drift scene, I'll get another 240 or something and strip it down and build it JUST for that.

building the ka24 would be cool too, but spendy. though this is all stuff that is completely irrelevant to this forum because none of it has to do with supra's anymore.

but based on what you guys have said, i think i'll pass on the 2jz. Maybe i'll just wait until I get another supra. So maybe a few years from now, i'll eventually find another one.