Rebuild ?'s...

Wh1te89supra

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Time for a rebuild for the good ole' 7M-GTE, because I spun a bearing. The motor is already out, torn down, and ready to go to the shop. My goal is a reliable daily driven 400+ - 450 horsepowered supra on pump gas for the time being. I want to get this build done right, and I'm here to ask a few ?'s concerning the build. This is going to be my daily driver by the way, so reliable is a must. I know it's only reliable as I make it to be, but this is where it starts IMO. So I've been searching the boards and asking around about what needs done for the past few weeks. And here is what I came up with so far. I'm on a budget of $1500, so try to keep that in mind.
NO TORQUE PLATE WILL BE USED! :-( Unless I can find a shop or someone near me (Topeka, Kansas) that has one.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5631
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/

^^^ These are what I've read through, along with asking tons of people about this build, and I will be printing these and this thread out and handing them to my machinist and will ask him to look it all over before any work is done.

My plans are:
BLOCK
- Get the stock rods re-sized, shot peened, and balanced with my pistons.
- Everything balanced
- Polish the rods/beams/bolts
- New Piston Rings * Make sure the rings are gapped properly*
- ARP main, head, and rodbolts
- New MHG : I already have a HKS 2.0 MHG, yes I made the mistake of ordering it before I had the block/head machined.
- Clevite 77 bearings *Use TRSM spec for ALL bearing clearances! The tight side of spec is preferred.*
- Oil Pump - 188$ from Champion/Toyota
- New auxillary Shaft bearings
- Balance the crank and have the journals micro polished
- Have the main bearing caps line honed back to spec
- All new seals

- Remember!!!
* The rod/main caps have to be torqued on (to ARP spec) BEFORE the rods are honed as part of the re-size or the mains are line honed.
* Make sure the RA (Roughness Average) spec is met for decking the block/head...this is critical!*
* Make sure the front timing plate is machined at the same time as the block, otherwise it will be higher than the block deck preventing the MHG from sealing.

HEAD
- New valve stem seals
- 3 angle valve job
* Check all springs for compression spec
* Check the valve clearances (lash) before the motor is installed...
* Make sure the cam shaft caps are torqued to spec...there is a pattern in the TRSM!

Well that just about sums it all up! Any advice on anything else I should do, have done, noted - ANYTHING?

Sorry for the long post, any help would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Steve
 

Wh1te89supra

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kylefoto said:
So is this going to all fall within your 1500 budget? I'm rebuilding my engine soon too and 1500 would be a nice price for it all!
I'm aiming for 400-450 myself.
Sorry for the misunderstanding, no the 1500 is going to be for all the machine work done. It should cover everything I have in mind.

Mods are:

-BOSS LIPP TO4E .57 Trim Turbo
-Full 3" Exhaust turbo back w/ 3" turbo elbow
-HPF IC KIT w/ HKS SSQV BOV
-RC 550cc Injectors
-Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
-Maft Pro w/ Speed density and boost control
-RPS Stage 3 Clutch w/ 3200 lb pressure plate
-Greddy Catch can
-PLX M-300 Wideband
-AFPR
-Koyo Radiator
-Custom intake w/ 9" K&N Filter

That's everything that I can think of at the moment.

- Steve
 

kylefoto

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Wh1te89supra said:
Sorry for the misunderstanding, no the 1500 is going to be for all the machine work done. It should cover everything I have in mind.

Mods are:

-BOSS LIPP TO4E .57 Trim Turbo
-Full 3" Exhaust turbo back w/ 3" turbo elbow
-HPF IC KIT w/ HKS SSQV BOV
-RC 550cc Injectors
-Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
-Maft Pro w/ Speed density and boost control
-RPS Stage 3 Clutch w/ 3200 lb pressure plate
-Greddy Catch can
-PLX M-300 Wideband
-AFPR
-Koyo Radiator
-Custom intake w/ 9" K&N Filter

That's everything that I can think of at the moment.

- Steve
So just the machine work and not parts for the internals of the engine?
 

Wh1te89supra

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kylefoto said:
So just the machine work and not parts for the internals of the engine?
That is correct, I already have all the parts for the internals of the engine. Except the oil pump, and the auxillary shaft bearings.
 

2543arvin

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nice, my rebuild that im doing right now is almost identical, except im going with .020 over wiseco pistons and eagle rods, but the machine work is costing me right at 1500 as well.
 

Wh1te89supra

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2543arvin said:
nice, my rebuild that im doing right now is almost identical, except im going with .020 over wiseco pistons and eagle rods, but the machine work is costing me right at 1500 as well.

Yeah, I'm thinking it's going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500. I was thinking about getting pistons and rods as well, but I think the stockers will hold up fairly well. If I wait a few months I would definately have enough money to go with the wiseco's and rods. Is it really worth it? Yeah, probably. But do I need it? No.

- Might I ask, what are your goals, what kind of power are you looking to make, and what mods do you have done?

- Steve
 

Getsideways86.5

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Wh1te89supra said:
Yeah, I'm thinking it's going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500. I was thinking about getting pistons and rods as well, but I think the stockers will hold up fairly well. If I wait a few months I would definately have enough money to go with the wiseco's and rods. Is it really worth it? Yeah, probably. But do I need it? No.

- Might I ask, what are your goals, what kind of power are you looking to make, and what mods do you have done?

- Steve



Good luck with that one. Im doing almost the same thing.. Wiseco,eagle , arp and clevit77. Oh and i found a high voulme oil pump.. im throwing in there to.. But im making a 7mge to a 7mgte considering my stock gte blew up.. "Driver error"
14psi on sup rod bearing for about 4 months.. beating the sh*t out of it.. didnt car paid 500 for the car.. its still clean, inside and out.

Good luck..
 

Wh1te89supra

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Getsideways86.5 said:
should i not go with the clevite 77's?
Actually I don't think nearly many of us have the ACTUAL Clevites. IIRC the clevites that probably both you and I have are NDC bearings in a clevite box, or something like that. Who knows, but they are going in!

- Does anyone else have anything to add?
 

Jaguar_5

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^^ Word!
Specifically the pistons, you can get a set of new wiseco pistons, including pins, AND RINGS! For about $600 :D

Good luck man, you're definitely on the right track with all your research!

As far as the bearings, I'd go with toyotas, as mentioned above, the Clevite 77's are now rebadged, overpriced NDC's (Thanks IJ for finding this out for all of us!)

If you go with the stock pistons, you forgot to mention re-honing the cylinder walls for the new rings, if you get forgies, you'll have to bore the block (bore it as little as you can, to get the clearance spec'd by the piston mfg)