Is it ok/safe to bed new pads/rotors in the rain?

[gaboonviper85]

Hmmm...a 3500 lb high HP car. Thanks, but I'll stick to my guns.
I'm not going to run a new set of pads and a fresh rotors for the 1st time in the rain...not going to happen on my car

which is compleatly called for "for your application" I agree....

But I highly doubt its nessary in this case!

Now if dude does autoX something of the sorts then sure I'd understand needing the perfect day!

 

[jdub]

Jeez man - I'm not talking about a perfect day...just a dry one
The car still weighs 3500 lbs and the brakes are a very important part of stopping this beast. It's something I do not leave to chance...especially with my pink arse inside :eek3:

 

[gaboonviper85]

Gaboon - Did you skip physics? The brakes will get wet...lets look at how close to the ground they are and the typical (low) speed one would drive through standing water. Do what you want dude, but the OP ask for an answer and I pretty well stated mine.

then in that case..let's say around town driveing...one shouldn't be getting the brakes hot enough to cause glaseing wet or dry or else one drives like a nut....

On the highway water will never make it to the brakes....around town his brakes shouldn't get hot enough.....

Forest gump-"and that's all I got to say about that"

 

[gaboonviper85]

I'm just busting your balls jdub...I know how smart you are!

But seriously its not going to hurt anything if dude isnt nutt behind the wheel

 

[InFrnt0fU]

Bottom line here...
people who take the time to bed their new pads/rotors are getting the most out of their brakes. Many people may not notice a difference or give a flying fuck when driving a car that has had pads/rotors properly bedded. It's exactly the same when people ask "Do I really need to machine my block and head when putting in a MHG...?"...Do you really NEED to do it, possibly not, should you do it, most certainly if you want the most out of your engine. I personally think some people just want to unbolt stuff, slap on new stuff, and call it a day.

The couple feet of stopping power you gained might keep you out of an accident ...who knows...measure twice, cut once...cliche but the right mind set. Just my .02.

 

[jdub]

<Golf Clap> :bigthumb:

Well said!

 

[GrimJack]

If you'd like to learn a crapload about brakes, including 'warped' rotors and bed in procedures, go here: http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/wp_warped_brakedisk.shtml

 

[Poodles]

OK...think about this...

Would you go DRAG race your brand new clutch? No? Well they why would you do the same to your brakes?

They both are similar systems using much the same materials, and BOTH need to be properly broken in if the expected perfomance out of them is to be achieved.

Do what you want, it's your car, I just don't want you behind me in the Hill Country...

 

[Keros]

It would seem a waste to spend a dime on anything and then fuck it up by not installing it properly.

Bedding in rotors and pads isn't rocket science, it just takes some research and careful application of knowledge.

Might as well get the most bang for the buck.

 

[sectorzero]

What a bunch of egotistical crap. Is it apples or oranges. Are we racing or getting rid of a squeak, are they organic, fiberglass, carbon fiber, metallic, high temp, low temp resin, premium or budget pads. What finish was left on the rotors, how much metal was left on the rotors, were the calipers replaced, rebuilt, was the system flushed, give me a break there is a right way and a wrong way to do anything. There are a lot of variables involved in proper and correct brake replacement. Rotor finishes vary depending on a metalic vs, organic pad. The same goes for clutches and head gasket surfaces.

How do you give advice when you don't even know what the variables are?

 

[IJ.]

What a bunch of egotistical crap. Is it apples or oranges. Are we racing or getting rid of a squeak, are they organic, fiberglass, carbon fiber, metallic, high temp, low temp resin, premium or budget pads. What finish was left on the rotors, how much metal was left on the rotors, were the calipers replaced, rebuilt, was the system flushed, give me a break there is a right way and a wrong way to do anything. There are a lot of variables involved in proper and correct brake replacement. Rotor finishes vary depending on a metalic vs, organic pad. The same goes for clutches and head gasket surfaces.

How do you give advice when you don't even know what the variables are?

Bedding pads in WILL cause some of the resins in the pad to boil out and gas, once done the pads "cure" and this is no longer an issue.

Worst case scenario (had it happen to a customer at a shop I worked for) Is you drive the pads get hot the resin boils out then you stop the car for whatever reason, the pads bond to the rotors and you're going nowhere.

It took an air chisel against the pad to break it free.

Do some research learn how to bed pads correctly.

Don't know about the US but asbestos is outlawed here for pads/shoes.

 

[sectorzero]

Oh yeh. how about crankshaft finishes, and cylinder wall finishes depending on what type and how many rings you run. Iron, moly, chrome, gapless, fuels, nitrous, alcohol, gas, combustion temps,???

Brakes are no different. Each application requires its own treatment. Follow the manufacturers recommendations. That is why they hire engineers! It is why some of us have degrees and others don't. We do the testing, research, and push products to, and beyond their breaking point. Then we analyze why, how, and under what conditions the product failed.

 

[jdub]

What a bunch of egotistical crap. Is it apples or oranges. Are we racing or getting rid of a squeak, are they organic, fiberglass, carbon fiber, metallic, high temp, low temp resin, premium or budget pads. What finish was left on the rotors, how much metal was left on the rotors, were the calipers replaced, rebuilt, was the system flushed, give me a break there is a right way and a wrong way to do anything. There are a lot of variables involved in proper and correct brake replacement. Rotor finishes vary depending on a metalic vs, organic pad. The same goes for clutches and head gasket surfaces.

How do you give advice when you don't even know what the variables are?

MK3BRENT asked this question but it never was answered and I'm now in the same situation. Just installed new powerslot cyros and akebono proact pads in the front. It just started to rain and I have to drive to work in the morning.

Anybody know of or had any bad experience bedding in brakes when its raining/roads wet??

Thanks.

Bottom line here...
people who take the time to bed their new pads/rotors are getting the most out of their brakes. Many people may not notice a difference or give a flying fuck when driving a car that has had pads/rotors properly bedded. It's exactly the same when people ask "Do I really need to machine my block and head when putting in a MHG...?"...Do you really NEED to do it, possibly not, should you do it, most certainly if you want the most out of your engine. I personally think some people just want to unbolt stuff, slap on new stuff, and call it a day.

The couple feet of stopping power you gained might keep you out of an accident ...who knows...measure twice, cut once...cliche but the right mind set. Just my .02.

Next time why don't you read the thread before you spout off
Bedding in NEW pads and rotors is ALWAYS a good idea.

 

[IJ.]

Oh yeh. how about crankshaft finishes, and cylinder wall finishes depending on what type and how many rings you run. Iron, moly, chrome, gapless, fuels, nitrous, alcohol, gas, combustion temps,???

Brakes are no different. Each application requires its own treatment. Follow the manufacturers recommendations. That is why they hire engineers! It is why some of us have degrees and others don't. We do the testing, research, and push products to, and beyond their breaking point. Then we analyze why, how, and under what conditions the product failed.

What is your problem?

The bolded text in my quote was agreeing with you just without the condescending bullshit of your post.

You have a degree.... big fucking deal get over yourself.

 

[InFrnt0fU]

This threads point has been heard and there really shouldn't be anymore .02's cause its just becoming clutter. Some people just feel the need to say something to make themselves feel important lol...I won't mention names.