How to check transmission

gsmokez

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Hey guys I need some help. Im looking into buying a Supra soon and I have a couple of offers but theres one guy that doesn't seem to know much about them and wasn't able to tell me whether the transmission was a R154 or W58. How can I check which transmission is in the car. What are some other things that I should watch out and check for when buying a Supra. All helps appreciated guys
 

Fletch124

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If the car is turbo then its an R154. If its non-turbo its a W58. Although it could have been through a swap. The R154 and W58's have different slave cylinders.
 

gsmokez

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okayy since no one has an answer to this i wanna know something else. How much do you guys spend on your Supras in terms of maintenance such as leaks or break downs or anything like thatt. I wanna know cuz mi parents think its going to be giving me a lot of trouble because of its age.
 

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Your parents are right. For the first several years I spent at least $3000 per year on maintenance. And the car I purchased was actually in pretty nice shape.

By now, of course, my car rarely breaks due to age. Now it's from too much power.
 

gsmokez

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thanks IJ but ive already seen that car and decided i dont want it but ill keep it in mind when i go to look at another one.

And grimjack how was it that you spent so much on your Supra? Did you driv eit rough all the time or something? What kind of mods did it have and what kind of model was itt?
 

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It depends on the person before you honestly... even if they rebuilt the engine when they swapped it, unless they did all of the steps while building the engine correctly and checked all of the clearances, then it might go to crap in a month... but you may get lucky and you wont have to replace anything except the spark plugs and wires and change the oil!

Its a used car, hope for the best, expect the worst. If your good with engine work, buy a rod knocked supra and rebuild the engine so YOU know whats in it.

Just my opinion.
 

gsmokez

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no its my first car i dont know anything about engines but what about if I knew of a car with 125 000 km with a MHG. Would you buy that car? It was babied by the first owner and then stored by the second

Thats actually the one im looking to buy soon and Im hoping that this one works out. What would your opinion be about this car?
 

gsmokez

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yeah but thats the problem i dunno ANYONE that knows Supras i just have a bunch of family and friends that tell me not to get a 20 year old car and to save up for something else
 

gsmokez

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loll well then if there are any volunteers let me knoww. I trust the guy with this one though but other ones that I might go to see I'd like to have some help with them
 

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Post a request for help in the Regional section.

Doesn't matter if you trust him or not there's quite a few pitfalls with MA70's that can add up to a shitload of $ if you don't know what to look for and the owner may not even realise himself......
 

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gsmokez said:
thanks IJ but ive already seen that car and decided i dont want it but ill keep it in mind when i go to look at another one.

And grimjack how was it that you spent so much on your Supra? Did you driv eit rough all the time or something? What kind of mods did it have and what kind of model was itt?
No, I very rarely drive my car rough. I'm an old guy by now, and driving fast just doesn't have the sparkle it used to when I was still in my teens.

To give you an idea...

Virtually every hose will be hard and brittle. They may still work, but they will fail periodically. Many of those hoses, when they fail, cause catastrophic damage - any of the water lines will cause you to overheat, and that is problematic at best. If the accordian hose on the front of the turbo is broken, it can cause the engine to run badly lean and melt parts that shouldn't be melted.

So, I replaced every hose.

Same can be said of most of the plastic pieces. The engine undercover is going to be in sad shape, if it is even still there. Fan shroud for the radiator - you do NOT want one of these breaking on the car, I've seen this toast an engine several times. The coilpack cover will be severely brittle, again, if it's even in one piece to begin with.

The last owner had decent tires on it, but they were old. Old rubber starts to get stiff, and doesn't grip so well. So, I bought new tires.

I generally replace items like coolant, oil, oil filter, flush the brake lines, spark plugs, spark plug wires, etc, on all my cars when I buy them. It's worth it if only for the peace of mind, knowing that they have all been taken care of.

The sealed beam headlights that come with the car... well, they suck, plain and simple. I initially upgraded to Hella E code lights, which I eventually also upgraded to HID lights in the Hella housings.

The clutch master and slave cylinders are going to be near the end of their life expentancy - both of mine blew shortly after I purchased the car. I bet most of the owners here have run into the same problem.

The center console lid, steering wheel, shift knob, shifter boot, e-brake handle and boot are all old, badly cracked, and gummy. So, they all were repaired or replaced.

The stock stereo didn't work. Even if it did, it only played cassettes. Gee, that's useful. New stereo.

Various little bits are always broken - mine was the door lock bezels. The power window switches are often gone. I had to replace one of the windshield washer nozzles. My Cold Start Injector time switch is broken.

Virtually everyone who owns a Targa roof has to purchase new seals. Virtually everyone who owns a Supra needs new seals for the antenna and rear spoiler, too. Usually they need one for the rear hatch. Otherwise, the back end leaks, it fills the spare tire well with water, and rusts out the back end of the car.

Now, add in the usual engine issues - leaky intercoolers, turbos on their last legs, blown head gaskets, rod knock, oil leaks, coolant leaks, power steering leaks, air conditioning leaks, clogged catalytic converters, rusted out exhaust systems...

I could likely go on for quite some time. I'm dead serious when I say these are age issues, every car will have them.

Now on the other hand, if you buy a Supra for $5k, and plan ahead of time to sink another $15k into it over the next several years, AND accept the fact that it's not going to be a reliable daily driver for a good portion of that several years (and by ACCEPT, I mean, buy an AAA membership) you're going to end up with a car that has all the luxury and power of a $75k automobile for ~$20k.

AND you'll have a full set of tools, and you'll be an expert wrench handler on your car.
 

gsmokez

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yeah i was actually planning to mod it in the future but for a while its basically gunna b stock. The one im currently looking at has the headgasket changed which as far as i knew is the biggest problem with these cars. Now I just hafta worry bout the rest of the list lollll
 

james_9876

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Yeah, my story made short is basically what GrimJack said. I got my Supra from a guy that had it in a Climate Controled garage for about 3yrs. I picked it up with a BHG and over the next 2.5months, sunk about $3G into her.

Hoses
Synthetic Fluids
Rebuilt motor Goodies
K&N
New clutch
Almost got all the hoses replaced
New U-Joints

And that's the short list, but I do have supporting mods for later on. :evil2: Good luck with your journey with your supra and keep us updated on her.