so I've wanted to ask this question for a while... what is it? was is a stock toyota car? what are the differences between it and the ma70, jza70, and ga70? just wanted to know more about our legendary machines...
group a supra????
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The GrpA was a race car built to compete in Group A Touring car races in the 80's and early 90's.
The Turbo A was a limited run of I believe 500 cars sold to the public.
The Turbo A was a limited run of I believe 500 cars sold to the public.
The MKIII Supra chassis is the A70. The letter(s) before that denote the engine that came with it. The MA70 has the 7M, the JZA70 has the 1JZ and the GA70 has the 1G.
Supra "R" was a 1jz powered a70 and it came with a recaro interior and momo steering wheel. www.mkiiitech.com has info about the Turbo A
Sorry about that. I was in somewhat of a hurry when I read your first post.supraman2251 said:
The Turbo A has the 7M-GTEU which had a high-er flow version of the CT-26, I believe. That's about all I can come up with off the top of my head at the moment. I haven't taken much time to investigate the Turbo A yet since they're not available for purchase in the US.
Turbo A also did not have an afm. It ran off speed density is stock form. I believe it had a bigger intercooler, larger TB, and the 3000 is bigger and not labeled and yea the bigger turbo. Only 500 made in late 1988 but had what we know as the 89+ body and the Turbo A duct(derrrRR)
There is a buch of good info on DrJonez's forum, MKIIITech.
http://www.mkiiitech.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=219
http://www.mkiiitech.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=219
mkIIIman089 said:
read more closely, I asked what was the difference between those variations of the a70 chassis, and the turbo a.
thanks everyone for the great info, I'm really learning a lot. keep it comin!
MA70Supra88 said:
Can anyone confirm if the Bilstein struts/springs came only on the R model of the jza70?
edit: I've found that it seems the same suspension came on the Turbo A. But I still haven't found if it was on any other jza70 models.
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I "think" and this is only my understanding is in Japan under a certain width costs less for on road costs so they made the narrow body 2 litre Mk3's.
If you get a shot from dead ahead or behind it's quite noticable!
If you get a shot from dead ahead or behind it's quite noticable!
Dziuggy said:
No 86 MK3's were widebody in Japan.
No 87-88 GA70's were widebody in Japan.
Starting in mid-87 (1/87) the MA70 GT Limited was introduced, it was widebody.
Starting in 89, all MA70's were widebody, and the GA70 had the widebody option (not sure which model(s) had it).
After 1990, the MA70 was dropped and the JZA70 was introduced, which was only available as widebody.
CassMori said:
The Turbo A did not have special shocks, it had the same shocks as other non-TEMS equipped MA70's in Japan.
The Twin Turbo R was the only A70 that got the Bilstein shocks.
Jeff Lange said:
not that I'm doubting you Jeff, I was going from information I found here:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152439&highlight=group+turbo+bilstein
and here:
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114118&highlight=group+turbo+bilstein
admittedly, those are fairly old threads, so more accurate information may have come to light. Regardless, you answered my main question :bigthumb: - I bought a rear subframe from a jza70 for the diff, and it had the Toyota Bilsteins on it, just wanted to be sure of what I was claiming :icon_mrgr
I got my information from the parts catalog, heh. More accurate. A lot of what was said in that first thread especially is just not true at all.
The Turbo A's also did not have a special clutch, or larger cams, the valves are also the same. The diff is a different part number, but is still 3.73:1, not sure what changed there. The injectors are not larger either.
Turbo A's did have larger sway bars (same ones as the TT-R JZA70), and it had springs unique to the Turbo A, so they were upgraded.
They did have a larger intercooler.
The Turbo A's also did not have a special clutch, or larger cams, the valves are also the same. The diff is a different part number, but is still 3.73:1, not sure what changed there. The injectors are not larger either.
Turbo A's did have larger sway bars (same ones as the TT-R JZA70), and it had springs unique to the Turbo A, so they were upgraded.
They did have a larger intercooler.