Didn't think it was his Gay look... more "1 Million dollars bwaahh hhaaaa ahhh" Dr Evil!suprakidd;1900966 said:
Furious But Lazy 7M owner who gave Up.
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IJ.;1900971 said:Didn't think it was his Gay look... more "1 Million dollars bwaahh hhaaaa ahhh" Dr Evil!
haha damn thats a good one.. you have no idea how fitting that is!
So I guess the world didn't end and I might actually get to drive this thing again one day yay!
So lately I've been thinking about turbos and how you figure out how much power they will make.
my turbo flows 74lbs/min = 740hp
the turbo I have in mind flows 95lbs/min = 950hp
So here's where I get confused
How are the turbos rated for HP if there is so many different applications they can be used on?
Example take a 700hp rated turbo and put it on a 1J would it be able to get that motor to 700hp with the supporting mods?
Now take that same setup and change the block out for a 2jz block now you have 500cc extra now will the turbo/motor setup make more power ?
It just confuses me that when you take a turbo rated 700hp and slap it on a motor then take that same turbo and slap it on a bigger or smaller motor and its still rated for the same hp.
You would think a turbo is rated for what application it's being used on.
So can anyone tell me where my thinking is going wrong.
my turbo flows 74lbs/min = 740hp
the turbo I have in mind flows 95lbs/min = 950hp
So here's where I get confused
How are the turbos rated for HP if there is so many different applications they can be used on?
Example take a 700hp rated turbo and put it on a 1J would it be able to get that motor to 700hp with the supporting mods?
Now take that same setup and change the block out for a 2jz block now you have 500cc extra now will the turbo/motor setup make more power ?
It just confuses me that when you take a turbo rated 700hp and slap it on a motor then take that same turbo and slap it on a bigger or smaller motor and its still rated for the same hp.
You would think a turbo is rated for what application it's being used on.
So can anyone tell me where my thinking is going wrong.
It takes xx Air per hour added to yy fuel to make zz Hp, The only real difference is going to be where the engine makes it's power rpm wise, often laugh at the "how much hp will my combination make?" threads as it's all down to the Turbo fitted, some smaller/restrictive engines may never be able to flow enough exhaust to get the turbo to it's maxium hp potential though.
let's say you have a turbo that's good for 700 and you are only making 600 instead of changing other parts of the setup to achieve the 700hp goal you just switch to a turbo that is rated for 900hp to get that extra 100hp.
Would this be considered a bad idea(unsafe) ?
It seems like a lot of people tend to do this. In my head it seems like it would be more smart to figure out where your motor is not achieving the potential of the turbo or is this just where it comes down to the motor not being able to keep up with turbo.
With my end goal being above 800whp One Day in the feature I just want to know how to decide which turbo to go with without over doing it.
Would this be considered a bad idea(unsafe) ?
It seems like a lot of people tend to do this. In my head it seems like it would be more smart to figure out where your motor is not achieving the potential of the turbo or is this just where it comes down to the motor not being able to keep up with turbo.
With my end goal being above 800whp One Day in the feature I just want to know how to decide which turbo to go with without over doing it.
From reading several forums from SRT guys to cummins turbo guys, everyone is talking about drive pressure to make sure you're in the turbos correct a/r for your engine. If I'm correct in my understanding, achieving the 1:1 ratio for drive pressure would bring you the peak hp potential for your combo. As for what a turbo is 'rated' at I believe it's compared to the CI of whatever they based it off of. Such as a 62mm might make 600 on your 2.5 but a bigger CI will need MORE air flow to achieve the same numbers. Let me know if this is bad info as I'm also interested in learning what the most effective setup would be for xx horsepower.
Turbo Habanero;1901630 said:
I think this article is pretty good at explaining how to read a compressor map. The compressor map is a great place to start with turbo selection. As IJ stated, the air the flow of the turbo and the amount of power it can make is pretty straight forward, "figure about 10 hp per every pound of air.". But it is all in how a turbo creates that positive pressure that dictates what turbo is best for your application.
http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0304_turp_compressor_map/viewall.html
Kinda funny for the peeps who followed this thread and remember Snowman technically he was the first to guess what happened to my engine lol
Just was re reading the whole thread currently on page 85 I thought this was funny
Just was re reading the whole thread currently on page 85 I thought this was funny
snowman;1889648 said:
These comments regarding Snowman where the best made me laugh
gurley0916;1890766 said:thats it i cant take this anymore....IM OUT
Albert;1890783 said:
IBoughtASupra;1890777 said:
IBoughtASupra;1890791 said:
Clint;1890796 said:
IJ.;1890800 said:Been so long since I banned anyonehad to do it again
(screwed it up the first time)
just curious thats all, but i found out so we can drop that.
wait....
its cold enough to get frost on your windshield in tucson?? LOL i dont think its gone below 40 in phoenix.
wait....
its cold enough to get frost on your windshield in tucson?? LOL i dont think its gone below 40 in phoenix.
