Are human beings this ignorant? A strut brace rant.

[Another MkIII]

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Read the comments. So much ricer lolgic.
Seriously though, would it kill people to do a google search and actually research before talking? I read a post by IJ about this, and after a brief search to understand a double wishbone suspension, my strut bar was literally laying on my garage floor 5 minutes later. Group A cars didn't even use them, at least that's what I saw from the pictures of them. Why do people think they make a difference even after it has been explained to them?!
/rant
-AM3

 

[SupraMario]

Lol.

 

[airhead04]

Strut bars do make a difference man!!!!!!!












they add weight which makes the car slower.......TROLLOLOOLLOOLOLOLOO

 

[airhead04]

Actually, on a serious note, if you were to take the strut bar you have and have 2 bars welded to it. To triangulate it to the firewall it would benefit the car. BUT most people do not do this. And also swear to the car gods that, that is just unnecessary for the brace.

 

[Poodles]

People are stupid. I always laugh at it, because I can very quickly show how stupid they are.

Me: Here, what does it attach to?
Them: The strut towers.
Me: Yes, and what's stressing them?
Them: The struts.
Me: What force?
Them: Oh, it presses in and out.
Me: Oh, really? How does it do that when the bottom of the strut is attached with a joint that allows rotation along that access?
Them: I dunno, it just does.
Me: *staring at them trying to kill them with my mind*

 

[bioskyline]

/facepalm

 

[CyFi6]

No idea if you are this Tom guy or not, but going in and trying to make a point in effort to come off as more educated/higher/better in some way is just as stupid in my opinion. This Tom seems well aware that there is no structural benefit of the strut bar, but starts off with "What's the point of the strut brace?" knowing what the response will be, just so he could argue his point and prove that he is "smarter". Anyway, it's like laughing at someone for making a rookie mistake, such as using X air filter because ebay said it would give me more power, or using a strut brace because ebay said it would make the car more rigid... I see people doing this all the time, seemingly in effort to boost their self ego. How about you just explain from the get go the error in their logic, and if they don't want to hear it end it there instead of arguing. Anyway, that is the end of my little rant .

 

[hvyman]

It's pointless. Let them think it makes a difference. They prolly came from hondas. The whole point of the strut brace is when there is a strut that is the upper load carrying point. We dont have that.

 

[Typhoon]

The whole point of a STRUT brace is for Macpherson/Chapman STRUTS, which DO put side loads on the strut towers. As we know, the Supra does not have struts. What also makes me laugh is the design of some of the strut braces out there. End brackets so weak that they would deflect under load etc.

 

[joel903]

I bought my Cusco for the bling factor.

 

[GrimJack]

I bought my Greddy to give girls something to lean on when bending over the engine bay.

 

[mirage83]

Yes, a great many human beings are indeed that ignorant. Or put another way that I've heard, they're wedded to their preconceptions far more firmly than to their spouses.

 

[Turbo Habanero]

I bought my Greddy to give girls something to lean on when bending over the engine bay.

You finally just gave me a reason to buy one yes i shall order one tonight and i must admit its a must have for this reason only

 

[Flateric]

And I just now decided I'm gonna cut a sticker that says "Naked chick hand rail", or perhaps "Naked chick engine inspection brace rail"

 

[IJ.]

I've had this dicussion/argument many times over the years here even to the point of a well respected member arguing for bars....

The Placebo effect is strong and people want to believe they haven't made a useless purchase so will justify their decision.

 

[Poodles]

Some cars are a bit different, like the Miata. While it's a double wishbone suspension on all 4 corners, it's also a convertable so the STB seems to have some effect. They came with them from the factory, and I don't see them wasting money on them...though one never knows.

 

[Suprapowaz!(2)]

You're right Ian, not too long ago strut tower braces were all the rage in the MKIII community. Even senior members were swearing by them.

Reminds me when I was very active on Supraforums.com, and everyone was saying that we needed a company to make a forged steel crank for us so it can handle more power. Everybody was claiming that we had cast cranks. I can't remember which company made them for us, but it costed somewhere in the $3700 range. A well respected member or two bought one. I'm sure he won't come out and say who he is. Anyway, I got around to tearing my engine down to send it to a machine shop. I pulled that crank out and hot damn... it was a forged steel crank from the factory! I rejoiced to this awesome find and posted on SF, and they laughed at me. They told me I had no clue what I was talking about cause we all had cast cranks. I swear it wasn't until Mibrium told everybody we had forged steel cranks did they believe it. I still wonder to this day who actually bought one of those $3700 crankshaft.

 

[IJ.]

You're right Ian, not too long ago strut tower braces were all the rage in the MKIII community. Even senior members were swearing by them.

Reminds me when I was very active on Supraforums.com, and everyone was saying that we needed a company to make a forged steel crank for us so it can handle more power. Everybody was claiming that we had cast cranks. I can't remember which company made them for us, but it costed somewhere in the $3700 range. A well respected member or two bought one. I'm sure he won't come out and say who he is. Anyway, I got around to tearing my engine down to send it to a machine shop. I pulled that crank out and hot damn... it was a forged steel crank from the factory! I rejoiced to this awesome find and posted on SF, and they laughed at me. They told me I had no clue what I was talking about cause we all had cast cranks. I swear it wasn't until Mibrium told everybody we had forged steel cranks did they believe it. I still wonder to this day who actually bought one of those $3700 crankshaft.

Just ignorance and people that don't know how to tell the difference between Forged and Cast is all....

Haven't come across too many Cast Japanese Cranks over the years.

 

[Another MkIII]

No idea if you are this Tom guy or not, but going in and trying to make a point in effort to come off as more educated/higher/better in some way is just as stupid in my opinion. This Tom seems well aware that there is no structural benefit of the strut bar, but starts off with "What's the point of the strut brace?" knowing what the response will be, just so he could argue his point and prove that he is "smarter". Anyway, it's like laughing at someone for making a rookie mistake, such as using X air filter because ebay said it would give me more power, or using a strut brace because ebay said it would make the car more rigid... I see people doing this all the time, seemingly in effort to boost their self ego. How about you just explain from the get go the error in their logic, and if they don't want to hear it end it there instead of arguing. Anyway, that is the end of my little rant .

I just got surgery and a cast on my arm, so no mountain biking, no video games, no good cooking, and no wrenching for me. Nothing better to do, might as well troll the Honda owning Supra fanboys, lol.

I do understand and respect your point of view. But I do find it more effective to challenge a person by asking questions that stimulate critical thinking and a search for the answer, rather than spoon-feeding them answers, hence why I started with "What's the point of the strut brace?".
-AM3

 

[slow_yota]

lol, unfriend.