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yea I just don't see me using launch control or nos. I think stinger should suit my needs.

so the pnp harness from driftmotion replaces the stock one and eliminates the sensors/wires that are no longer needed? As for the off topic stuff, no need to apologize, I think we all agree that is awesome how much alike they look.

So I just re-read this and just wanted clarification about the harness situation, if my stock wire harness is shit and and I plan on getting stinger would it b a good idea to replace the harness?

I honestly can't say what mine is but I love it, the throws are damn near an inch.

so what exactly is causing the non start problem? The old harness? The old ignition? Starter? Has anyone pinpointed it yet?

Yup. And when they do I'll have my jza70 matress

haha I know. That's why I said I could live without it LOL. It's like a wonderful power that takes a little of your life each time lol. I would go with mart pro but I'd just like to get rid of as much of the old electrics as possible,ecu and wire harness are first in line.

ill hold out till theres a pre 89 version :icon_evil and not $80!! lol actually im pretty sure 220mm is 12" and not 8 but its still too much. and theres 3 of them umax, uma, and umame. if they were a more reasonable price i would buy like 50 and sleep on a bed of supras.

well im not looking for anything crazy really. the car will probably never see power levels over 600. 2 step would be nice, but i can live without it (it would really just be a show thing) i just need something more dependable than an safc and a lex afm (which is actually what i was going to go...

ahh. What u propose is interesting evil. My ignition has always done that but I've always known so I make sure it is off. My car can turn on and off fine within 2 or 3 hours of being driven(usually takes a few tries tho) but once it has sat for like 6hours the battery is either mostly, or...

hmmm could this problem kill the battery somehow? My car won't always start prolly due to this problem) but my batteries r constantly dying (batteries and apt jave tested ok) could this b why?

huh. thank you boosted, this is pretty much exactly what I was looking to find out. My stock harness is a pos that's been hacked and slashed since I bought it. I plan in the future to go 1j or 2j so I'd like a non engine specific ems. The shop that I would go to for tuning uses all kinds of...

some of that was hard to look at. but it is still a supra :icon_bigg treat her good.:bigthumb:

i think im gonna go with the stinger standalone. looks nice and sturdy apposed to a lex safc setup.

sweet. so thats the standalone im goin with when i do my upgrade in a few weeks here. so ill get back to you on this aaron. thanks again.

ahhh, thank you. and with stinger being a full stand alone it will alow me to get rid of my maf and a few other original sensors right?

does anyone know? or is the EMS the way to go for pre 89?

will these need aftermarket springs and valve seats?

shame to see a nice car like that go to a 16 year old who will prolly trash it.

which one has the better benifits? which one can give a better tune, without being completely complicated to set up in an 87 7mgte. the EMS is almost $600 more than the stinger, but seems to have more features, are they worth the extra 600? does either one run on the stock wire harness? or will...