What should be my next baby...

[MA70Snowman]

I currently have a heavily modded MKIII, I don't know if I"ll keep her around or not, probably for a little while till the new one is up to snuff. But I"m looking at moving on and currently I've narrowed my choices down to

a) 94-98 MKIV M/T TT (with Targa)
b) 2010 EVO X GSR (I don't want the MR as I'm a fan of 5-speeds and love the feeling of moving through the gears)

the general pros/cons as I see them (these are just the basics there's more but I"m not going to fill up a whole thread.

MKIV Pros
*retains value, I buy the car for 30k-40k and in 5 years there's a good chance it will still be worth that much.
*Can handle gobs of power with stock internals (I believe 650 rwhp)
*Get a lot out of BPU's

Cons
*Older Car
*Will need maintenance aka things will break


EVO X Pros
*New engine tech, lots of power out of little space
*alot of "luxury" features
*AWD
*factory maintenance
*Warrenty

Cons
*Warrenty
*heavier then its predecessors
*won't hold its value as well as MKIV


These are just some basics

Stat comparisons (out the box as of new production aka stock)

EVO X
291 hp @ 6500 RPMS
300 foot-lbs torque @ 4000 RPMS
Curb weight: 3200-3500
0-60mph: 4.9s
1/4 mi: 13.6s

Supra MKIV
(unable to track down numbers due to internet restrictions at work so if anyone could provide them it would be appreciated)
XXX hp @ XXXX RPMS
XXX foot-lbs torque @ XXXX RPMS
Curb weight: 3417
0-60mph: X.Xs
1/4 mi: XX.Xs

Thoughts/comments welcome, also this is the price range i'm looking at, I'm happy to entertain other thoughts. porsche/honda/VW/BMW/domestic I will not entertain.

 

[SupraSean]

supras were rated differently depending on where you go, ive heard the typical 280, or 320 hp somewhere around the upper range of 6k rpms. i believe the torque is rated around 315, but i may be wrong. 0-60 4.6 secs. 1/4 mile in 13.5? this is off the top of my head, should be pretty close. Supra For the Win

 

[MA70Snowman]

supras were rated differently depending on where you go, ive heard the typical 280, or 320 hp somewhere around the upper range of 6k rpms. i believe the torque is rated around 315, but i may be wrong. 0-60 4.6 secs. 1/4 mile in 13.5? this is off the top of my head, should be pretty close. Supra For the Win

Thanks for the stats,

Being a Supra forum... of course I know there's going to be some biased. anyway.

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how does she look.

 

[92nsx]

Your going to be looking for a loooooong time for a mk4 with a 5 SPEED!!!!!!!!!! But I bet you could find one with a 6 speed: p

 

[radiod]

USDM MKIV's are 320, JDM's are 280. JDM's have smaller turbos and smaller injectors.

The two cars will be completely different to drive. RWD vs AWD responds very differently with "spirited driving". I'd honestly say to try getting a test drive in each, see what suits your driving style more. That will help a lot in terms of picking. Are you planning on driving it year round? Weekend warrior? Summer car? All things to consider. What about modifications? How much are you going to be dumping in to get how much expected power?

 

[funky_monkey58]

Your going to be looking for a loooooong time for a mk4 with a 5 SPEED!!!!!!!!!! But I bet you could find one with a 6 speed: p

Yeah most likely about 5 minutes lol, the non turbo models came with a W58 and the r154 swap is very common in MKIVs that go NA-T

 

[MA70Snowman]

Your going to be looking for a loooooong time for a mk4 with a 5 SPEED!!!!!!!!!! But I bet you could find one with a 6 speed: p

Busted! wait for it....

::edit funky posted before I finished::
Although to NSX's credit, he knew I was referring to a M/T but yes there's the NA-T

USDM MKIV's are 320, JDM's are 280. JDM's have smaller turbos and smaller injectors.
The two cars will be completely different to drive. RWD vs AWD responds very differently with "spirited driving". I'd honestly say to try getting a test drive in each, see what suits your driving style more. That will help a lot in terms of picking. Are you planning on driving it year round? Weekend warrior? Summer car? All things to consider. What about modifications? How much are you going to be dumping in to get how much expected power?

Very Valid points, I have test driven both cars. I got into Cars with a GSX, swapped to Supras when drifting got big early 2002. AWD vs RWD either is acceptable to me I know how to drive both. I'm not in a climate where one would prevail over the other, i'm in sunny souther cali.
The car will most likely be a Occassional Dailey Driver, (I'll retain my beater wagon) the more I can drive it the better, as my Current MKIII will probably remain my weekend warrior.
Mods as mentioned in the OP are limited to the vehicle, if a MKIV of course it will get BPU's. the EVO X, due to the warrenty will probably see very minimal. I've got my monster already, I won't NEED a car with GOBS of Horsepower, I will be quite comfortable with a DD with 300-400 which either car can achieve with limited Mods. (assuming a stock base) The EVO X with intake/exhaust/boost controller is quite capable of seeing 350, and still maintaining the warrenty.

 

[funky_monkey58]

Pontiac GTO

 

[MA70Snowman]

Pontiac GTO

I'm happy to entertain other thoughts. porsche/honda/VW/BMW/domestic I will not entertain.

I do like pontiacs, if I ever did get a domestic it'd be a WS6. the GTO.. god I just wish they did more with the body. :3d_frown:

 

[Enraged]

there was a really nice black MKIV TT at PacNW for sale from Oregon. Asking $22500, around 500hp crank, but it was an auto.

 

[limequat]

I vote G35 + turbo kit.

 

[MA70Snowman]

I vote G35 + turbo kit.

Funny you mention that. I was always in love with that car, ever since I drove the Prototype that made the rounds at the dealerships while I was a tech at Saab/Infinity. it was a Candy blue, w/ the EURO/AERO package and was very nice. but for some reason it doesn't scream at me the same way the MKIV and EVO X do. If I got a car soley for luxury and a little sporty it would be the G35. Plus, I work with a guy, he's a real.. TOOL. and he's got a G35 kited out, for some reason him owning it just killed it for me. But good suggestion.

 

[Nick M]

Pontiac GTO

Good choice, and considering it is Australian, it will feed his ignorant comment about no domestics.

 

[airhead04]

Old school Chevelle

 

[MA70Snowman]

Good choice, and considering it is Australian, it will feed his ignorant comment about no domestics.

Nick, take those comments out of here. I don't recall pissing in your wheaties.
I mean do you seriously want to argue the technicalities of a "Classification"
Yes the GTO is based off the Holden Monaro, yes it's Australian. The GTO utilizes the LS1/LS2 both primarily used in Australian vehicles, as well as the corvet, camero/firebird.
However the company, originally in 1907 was oakland motor co, renamed to pontiact in '27, and Owned by GM. The Pontiac originally sold only in US/Canada/Mexico. As a Brand.. Pontiac is "domestic".
and seriously, lets face it, so much stuff is outsourced and put together in so many diffrent places there's no longer a TRUE "domestic"
"Domestic" is a relative term as it is.

And seeing as I'm the OP. Lets face it my definition of Domestic is what matters in this post.

 

[92nsx]

Yeah most likely about 5 minutes lol, the non turbo models came with a W58 and the r154 swap is very common in MKIVs that go NA-T

O. Didn't know he was looking at n/a's. or N/A-T for that fact. bottom quote

I read the op (post below this line) that he was looking for a TT not a N/A :thefinger:thefinger:thefinger:thefinger. How about you go and get your self re banned.

I've narrowed my choices down to

a) 94-98 MKIV M/T TT (with Targa)

^^^ I read, 1994 Toyota Supra, Manual transmission, Twin Turbo, with Targa top.

 

[Dylan JZ]

370z TT..


/thread

(for the money MKIV would be a better choice IMO, and I like the Evo X for the record)

 

[funky_monkey58]

O. Didn't know he was looking at n/a's. or N/A-T for that fact. bottom quote

I read the op (post below this line) that he was looking for a TT not a N/A :thefinger:thefinger:thefinger:thefinger. How about you go and get your self re banned.



^^^ I read, 1994 Toyota Supra, Manual transmission, Twin Turbo, with Targa top.

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[Guyana00]

If you're looking for something less common and want to chase down big power I would say the supra. tonnes of aftermarket support.
The lancer does have AWD if you like that and if you pretty much would like to stay stock stick with the lancer. Not that there isn't support but it does have more features, the body styling isn't so bland from the factory and the interior is nicer in most ways.

 

[Chard]

For my case at least, I have 2 young boys and would rather have a 4dr car b/c of family. Depends on your current and what your future needs would be but it's best to have a good/reliable dd.