What Bearings to use with Eagle Rods???

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They have all of the popular engines... but not the 7m... I would have thought ACL would have those Race bearings for any year supra motor...

Arent the 77's aluminum?
 

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927mgtepat;906927 said:
A buddy of mine ran King bearings, 1500 miles later Rod Knock, the bearing failed, and yes everything was in spec and cleaned.

Yeah and I bet he had piss poor tuning and he had a machining or fucked installation problem. I have used kings berings for years with no issues. Also you guys kill me with the lack of knowledge you have on berings. If you are killling berings you probably had piss poor tuning, too high engine heat, improperly filled crank case, ran way too f/n rich and washed the gass into the oil, poor machining, and piss poor assembly of the motor. I have found that most of you do it yourseff first time mechanics fuck up your assembling of the parts, or cut corners on the machining. Some forget to cut, and resize the rods. Most of you just get the crank cut to one size like -10 under , and the machinist doesent check the block to crank main clearances, or rod to crank clearances with all of the parts at the machinist to make sure that all the tolerances are met for each journal on the crank for mains and rods. Most of you don't get the block aligned hone to truethemains either. The crank and rods have a thin coat of oil that they ride that keeps the mains and rod berings from touching metal under constant oil pressure. If pressure is low you will soon get knock, if you detonate you can get knock, if you wash gas into the oil from running too rich you can get knock. If your oil is too hot it can deteriorate berings and cause knock. If you mix rod caps on assembly like most have told me in pms that can cause knock.
 
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927mgtepat;906931 said:
I wanted to find out more information about the NDC bearings that IJ was talking about. Here is something I found to be interesting about the NDC Bearings, are these real NDC or knock offs?


http://jschangsong.en.alibaba.com/p...earings_/NDC_Main_Bearing_Connecting_Rod.html

Just buy the clevites they are made by NDC. Clevite doesnt make berings for foreign cars. NDC makes the berings and clevite sells them in their own boxes. This means that clevite likes their prices and quality enough to put their name on them.
 

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QWIKSTRIKE;906985 said:
Yeah and I bet he had piss poor tuning and he had a machining or fucked installation problem. I have used kings berings for years with no issues. Also you guys kill me with the lack of knowledge you have on berings. If you are killling berings you probably had piss poor tuning, too high engine heat, improperly filled crank case, ran way too f/n rich and washed the gass into the oil, poor machining, and piss poor assembly of the motor. I have found that most of you do it yourseff first time mechanics fuck up your assembling of the parts, or cut corners on the machining. Some forget to cut, and resize the rods. Most of you just get the crank cut to one size like -10 under , and the machinist doesent check the block to crank main clearances, or rod to crank clearances with all of the parts at the machinist to make sure that all the tolerances are met for each journal on the crank for mains and rods. Most of you don't get the block aligned hone to truethemains either. The crank and rods have a thin coat of oil that they ride that keeps the mains and rod berings from touching metal under constant oil pressure. If pressure is low you will soon get knock, if you detonate you can get knock, if you wash gas into the oil from running too which you can get knock. If your oil is too hot it can deteriorate berings and cause knock. If you mix rod caps on assembly like most have told me in pms that can cause knock.

What you said is true in many circumstances , I am an A&P aircraft mechanic and assisted my friend in his build, everything was done right, The bearing failed because it had a weak spot in the material. I have ran king bearings in my old eagle talon with no problem. But as to his case it was the bearing that failed.
 

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IJ.;907029 said:
Heard/saw some horror stories with King's BiMetal bearings when pushed hard :(

Whats up grumpy old man....Ian whats the beast up to these days. I can say that I never had a problem with them. However I have had guys swear by the ACLS Ian. Imagine that. I think that when people get their motors done and don't have all of the properthings to keep it running they asscociate the problem as a weak link that never points to human error. Most of the pm's that I have recieved, or have had my self was caused by human error. I did everything right and didnt have a greatly tuned standalone. I got a standalone and the tuner proved to be the weakest link, yet he will deny it to you and me.lol:biglaugh: