Source for new steering u-joints for $30 for the OEM steering shaft

destrux

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I found out that the u-joints in our steering column and steering shaft are the same dimensions as the u-joints used for the driveshaft on a Kawasaki KLF300 Bayou 300 4x4 (years 89-04). Dimensions are 16mm cap OD, 40MM overall joint width. They cost about $30 and I've even found a version with a grease fitting for $40.

I'd assume the joint is plenty strong enough since on the quad it's being used to transmit a few thousand foot-pounds of torque.

I'll be ordering one and installing it shortly, since my lower joint is squeaking now that the rubber seals completely disintegrated and let water in.
 
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Interesting, are the steering shaft joints the same design as the driveshaft? Press fit, with c-clip?
 

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I didn't get the one I ordered yet, but here's the pic from the website.
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It's a press fit joint, the ATV one uses internal c-clips which may or may not be any use on the steering shaft. I'm not going to use them, I'll be staking it in place the same way the old joint was held in. Our original steering joints don't have any clips holding them in place, they are just pressed in and staked. I'll probably add a drop of loctite sleeve retainer just to be redundant.
 

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destrux;1938951 said:
I'd assume the joint is plenty strong enough since on the quad it's being used to transmit a few thousand foot-pounds of torque.

Quads make a few thousand ft-lbs of torque??
My supra only made about 250. No wonder ATV's are so popular...
:)
 

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supraguy@aol;1939463 said:
Quads make a few thousand ft-lbs of torque??
My supra only made about 250. No wonder ATV's are so popular...
:)

You didn't know this? I dreamed once of a quad pulling a Ram with a Cummings motor all around a parking lot. lol

OP nice find on the u-joint. Nothing like saving a few bucks. Thanks!! Please let us know how it works out with the fitment.
 

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destrux;1939081 said:
I didn't get the one I ordered yet, but here's the pic from the website.
UJ300.jpg


It's a press fit joint, the ATV one uses internal c-clips which may or may not be any use on the steering shaft. I'm not going to use them, I'll be staking it in place the same way the old joint was held in. Our original steering joints don't have any clips holding them in place, they are just pressed in and staked. I'll probably add a drop of loctite sleeve retainer just to be redundant.

I had a feeling the factory joints were "perma-staked'. I am interested in how this tuns out.

What does the oem joint assy cost?
 

destrux

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supraguy@aol;1939463 said:
Quads make a few thousand ft-lbs of torque??
My supra only made about 250. No wonder ATV's are so popular...
:)

I was a little off, they make a couple hundred ft-lbs though, about 400ft-lbs from what I figured out in my head (5.42 final, 3.09 1st gear ratio and 20ft-lbs of engine torque roughly). Your Supra makes well over 1,500 ft-lbs of torque at the axles though. Torque is multiplied by the trans and final drive. Chassis dyno a car in first gear sometime, you'll see some very very high torque numbers if you can maintain traction. That's why you always dyno in 4th (or whatever the direct drive gear is).

http://www.team-integra.net/forum/b...ing-i-torque-multiplication-final-drives.html
 

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It fits, it works. You can't grease it unless you disconnect the shaft and bend the yoke out of the way, but I never greased the original joint and it lasted 25 years. The u-joint clips will work to hold it in. They actually fit perfectly. I staked it too, just to be safe.

I've heard the OEM Kawasaki joint is made better and has finer tolerances, but it costs about $55. This one was $28 shipped on ebay. It's made by All-Balls Racing which makes aftermarket bearings for dirtbikes/ATV's. I've used their stuff before on my quad and dirtbike and their stuff seems to hold up fine.
 

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Hate to bump old (ish) threads but I can't find a place local to me that will agree to replace the staked in ujoint (let alone admit it can be done). It's starting to piss me off, it shouldn't be any more difficult than saying 'here are the parts, go do it and I'll give you money' but apparently it is.

Destrux did you do this yourself, find a local place, send it out of state? I'm at a loss haha.
 

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I did this myself, I work at an automotive general repair shop. I wouldn't do it again though unless the OEM joint was seized or really falling apart. If I did it again I'd probably just get a complete woodward steering joint with a round weld-on side and toyota splines on the other side. I feel like that would be less work and be just as safe.
 

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After arguing with two places about whether or not these ujoints can be replaced (AND showing them the new joint) I found a third that put it in for me, as well as cut circlip slots in for the next time (which is hopefully never).

Mine was falling apart, I could rotate the shafts 30* apart from each other...Toyota doesn't sell new ones either so I was out of luck.

Thanks!
 

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Long term update, 30K miles and 9 years later the joint is getting a small amount of play in it.

Held up pretty good considering the cost and I've never greased it since I installed it.
 
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