Alright so I have a 91 Supra with a 1G-GTE engine in it. I would like to get a new intercooler but finding parts for the engine is a bitch. So my question is intercoolers are interchangable as long as the body style allows for clearance on the intercooler right? Like I could buy a intercooler that would normally fit on a 7M-GTE and it would fit fine on my 1G. The only thing that can't be changed out is the piping and that would have to be all custom fabrication right? Thanks in advance.
Question about intercoolers
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yeah dude intercoolers are all interchangeable. The only thing that limits you is your ability to custom fab. If you buy a 7mgte or 1jzgte intercooler it should bolt into your car. The piping like you said would be the only custom part.
I've never seen a 1ggte in person so you'll have to help me out. Is your intercooler entry and exit on opposite sides?
I've never seen a 1ggte in person so you'll have to help me out. Is your intercooler entry and exit on opposite sides?
the 1g-gte piping has entry/exit on opposite sides like the 1jz. piping would be custom as the intake charge piping runs up in front of the alt and over the valve covers (this info for previous poster)
Moy;1308240 said:
Ah I see. Thanks for the clarifacation. I've only seen pics of the motor outside of the car. I dig the over the valve cover piping though . Looks way cooler than the 7mgte setup we have in the states.
Wiht this info I would suggest using the stock 1j intercooler if you got a line on one for super cheap. Otherwise do an ebay cheapo intercooler and call it good.
There is the 1g-gte and the two long pipes over the valve covers are the intercooler pipes. 1JZ intercooler you say? Would it add much or a increase in power? As well with just leaving the stock piping is it really hurting my performance gains? I know there is a thread on this somewhere I have seen but no one could ever come to an agreement.
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It may look cool but the extra 90 degree bends and the massive heat soak those pipes would get are far from ideal.
It may look cool but the extra 90 degree bends and the massive heat soak those pipes would get are far from ideal.
Depends on the stock ic for the 1g, more than likely its not going to help a whole lot.steveo;1308267 said:
You'd see a half decent gain from running the piping another way but you don't really have much choice on how to run the ic piping either because the manifold's inlet isn't front facing.
All I could suggest really would be to get the ic pipes in the engine bay (and might as well do the intake manifold itself as well) ceramic coated, you would likely see a lot better returns through that than swapping the ic itself.
Canuckrz;1308268 said:
Oh yeah, super bad. I ran just the 1 cross bipe on my 7m and it was very unhealthy for charge temps. I can't imagine running that much of my inlet over the motor. Not so nice!
I would agree with you on the comment about changing the entire inlet setup, form IC pipes to manifold all together. Ultimately though I would ask Steveo how much money and effort he wants to poor into that motor.
From the little I know about the 1g, it's only good for around 300hp. If a 7M or 1J is more available and whatnot possibly a better option. On the other hand perhaps you super dig the 1G? It would be pretty sweet to do a single turbo conversion, then cams with like a shortrunner intake. Possibly ITB's and rev that sucker to like 12,000 rpms. Do some super short intercooler pipes so you got little to now build time and no giggle in your blow off valve. Be pretty sick. :naughty:
For now with the motor I have and it being a 2.0L I don't plan on getting huge numbers out of it. I am looking for minimal gains that would make my car more reputable on the street. I am 18 year old kid trying to save money to get into collage or university of some sort. Once done that "project" I plan on scrapping the car I own and plan on buying a MKIV 2JZ six speed. If that in the future is still out of reach and not in my "budget" I will stick with the MKIII but buy one with a 1JZ so it isn't as hard to get the HP/TQ numbers out of it.
steveo;1308418 said:
Good for you dude. College is top priority!!! For now I would recommend doin some of what Canuckrz said:
replace all your rubber intercooler pipes with welded aluminum or mild settl. Try to weld all the segments and grind the insides smooth. Then ceramic coat all of the pipes, your intake manifold, exhaust manifold, turbos and your valve covers. This is kinda pricey, but you can do it in stages so not too bad. Coating everything will help control the heat alot by preventing it from radiating out of each part. For the valve covers it will keep heat from getting up to your IC pipes and for the IC pipes not only will it help with outside heat but will contain the temps of the air in your pipes. Then get yourself a better intercooler. Either find a cheap upgrade like the 1J or grab a cheap 1 off ebay. This should give you the ability to up the boost a fair amount and help with your turbo response time.
PS: if you wanna cheap out a little you can use High-temp Exhaust paint instead of ceramic coating. It will help a bit but not nearly as much as the real deal.
Well if you've got the tools and some metal working skills you could make some piping yourself reasonably cheaply seeing as it would have to be custom made anyway, those stock pipes have to be VERY restrictive by the looks of it.
Or at the very least do the ceramic coating like I mentioned, it will get rid of the shit ton of heat soak that you're currently getting. I'd also consider making an air box for that intake, as it is its sucking in the hot engine bay air and feeding it to your motor.
Or at the very least do the ceramic coating like I mentioned, it will get rid of the shit ton of heat soak that you're currently getting. I'd also consider making an air box for that intake, as it is its sucking in the hot engine bay air and feeding it to your motor.
Ceramic coating is usually done in batches so getting 1 pipe done would cost the same as getting everything done. idk about pricing and whatnot but it should be too much.
I wouldn't ceramic coat the valve covers, those radiating heat helps keep the oil cool.
I wouldn't ceramic coat the valve covers, those radiating heat helps keep the oil cool.
Good point with the ceramic coating of the valve covers. I didn't think about that.
Also super good idea with building an airbox!
Probably smart to build another charge tube after the flapper box too. I thinks we both agree with custom making your IC pipes. as many straight shots as possible with as brad of bends as you have room for. weld all the joints instead of using silcone or rubber couplers. Should help.
Also super good idea with building an airbox!
Probably smart to build another charge tube after the flapper box too. I thinks we both agree with custom making your IC pipes. as many straight shots as possible with as brad of bends as you have room for. weld all the joints instead of using silcone or rubber couplers. Should help.
for intercooler and piping these guys sell really good do it yourself kits.
http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-225ickit.php
http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-ic-1jz.php
I just finished mine, Still am working on airbox but I'll throw up some pics
One more thing I thought of is if you order extra piping pull out your fog lights and make piping that will rout cold air up into your engine bay
http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-225ickit.php
http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-ic-1jz.php
I just finished mine, Still am working on airbox but I'll throw up some pics
One more thing I thought of is if you order extra piping pull out your fog lights and make piping that will rout cold air up into your engine bay
Canuckrz;1308475 said:
Nope...not true...done it many times. There is not enough oil flow through the top of the head and the air space makes any heat retention minimum (if at all).
Ceramic holds up far better than paint or powder-coat.
Well, now you know someone that's done it personally...several dozen times
It would be a good idea to have stated what you posted as "theory" or as a question vs stating it as if it were fact.
That's exactly how a lot of the BS you hear about this car gets started.
It would be a good idea to have stated what you posted as "theory" or as a question vs stating it as if it were fact.
That's exactly how a lot of the BS you hear about this car gets started.
Yeah I know, my bad. I figured it would be better safe than sorry in the event that he did coat it and it did screw something up.
not to be off topic but those pipes go right over the cam covers and everyone bashed hommer for doing the same thing lol