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taylor1987supra

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I was curious as to if anyone has had a full system in their car without the interior being inside ? does it ruin the sound quality not having door panels / head liner?
 

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Know anyone with a band? Have them practice in a tin shed, and compare sound quality to what a proper basement/studio setup sounds like. ;)
 

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I don't know about you guys, but my car sounds (for the most part) better than my home surround sound.. My car is just lacking mid bass. Hopefully I'm going to get a little 8 inch sub and put it in the back, along with the 10s I currently have to cover mid bass.
 

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Backlash2032;1917548 said:
I don't know about you guys, but my car sounds (for the most part) better than my home surround sound.. My car is just lacking mid bass. Hopefully I'm going to get a little 8 inch sub and put it in the back, along with the 10s I currently have to cover mid bass.
Someone needs to read up on audio...if you put an 8 in the back with those 10s, you will never hear the 8. Those 10s will drown it out. Those only place you will get midbass in these cars is the front doors. get a really good quality 3 way and you will be fine. Just make sure to power them just right and you will hear every dB of the midbass in that car. Plus having it tuned right helps.
 

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91Supra313;1917605 said:
Someone needs to read up on audio...if you put an 8 in the back with those 10s, you will never hear the 8. Those 10s will drown it out. Those only place you will get midbass in these cars is the front doors. get a really good quality 3 way and you will be fine.
Although I agree with the first part, we're talking about midBASS. I don't think good midbass I'd possible in our cars without a lot of forethought and fabrication. This is coming from a guy with 6.5 components in glass pods with 200 rms going to each set tuned with an oscilloscope. I hope you don't mean coaxial 3 ways:eek:
 

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I'm running all Alpine in my car at the moment and I have great midbass. 1 ten shallow mount in the back and I hear everything just fine. From the highs, to mids, to nice deep bass. Sometimes it is the over thinking and over planning that kills it. All I did was Dynamat all around the speaker in the doors, and dynamat the shit out of the trunk and I even removed the liner on my targa and put in in there.....I have never had a problem or heard a complaint about how it all sounds.
 

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What I was thinking was adjusting the filters so the 10s have the hpf at say 80-90 Hertz. And the 8 would have the lpf at about 80-90 Hertz. So as the 8s approach the lows the 10s start taking over.

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Backlash2032;1917712 said:
What I was thinking was adjusting the filters so the 10s have the hpf at say 80-90 Hertz. And the 8 would have the lpf at about 80-90 Hertz. So as the 8s approach the lows the 10s start taking over.

uhhhhhhh yeah sure......so you want the larger sub, which is meant to handle the lows to now handle the highs, and the smaller sub, to handle the bottom dropping lows? Have at it hoss.
 

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Maybe I have my filters backwards. Say there's a drop from 150hz. At 150, that's handled by the 8. As it approaches say 80 Hz, it crosses over to the tens. By 40 Hz it will be handled exclusively by the 10s.

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That is a lot of boxes in the trunk. Why not save some space and get some good quality 6x9s in separate boxes by themselves, and use those for the mids? I am running 1 10" shallow mount sub and it hits hard. As long as you have the proper box, and matching wattage from the amp to the sub, 100 watts will sound unbelievable. Unless you want something that people a block away will hear and feel, why not just use a single ten and some 6x9s....save cash that way too. Just an idea
 

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Because I already have a powered 8 I can put right on the side of the 10s box

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I honestly think you are under estimating how much those tens are going to drown out the 8. a few Hz won't make a difference when transferring between the subs like that. Plus with them being in the same space like that, you won't even hear the difference.
 

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I have 2 tens with a 1100 watt amp in my hatch and sometimes that's too much and i know mine would drown out the single 8

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98BlakTacoma;1923058 said:
I have 2 tens with a 1100 watt amp

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Does it bother anyone else when people say this? Its nothing against you Tacoma, its just frustrating that all these amp companies put max watts on the amp and people blurt that out when it really means nothing. Just being grumpy:p I think one single 8, possibly a sundown SA8 would be awesome but it would still not quite fix the midbass problem imo. The higher range of midbass (snares, toms etc)should come from the same place that vocals come from imo.
 

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All good i dont know that much bout amps lol willing to learn so i dont make a full outa myself :)

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98BlakTacoma;1923093 said:
All good i dont know that much bout amps lol willing to learn so i dont make a full outa myself :)
I believe he was referring to how annoying it can be that electronics manufacturers rate things by max wattage (absolute peak performance) versus RMS wattage (what you actually use in normal listening. ;)

As for me, best sounding setup I ever had was a single 10" in a shallow box, aimed at the rear hatch window, and two 6x9 Pioneer 4-ways in separate boxes pointed at the back of the front seats. Sounded great, then got stolen from the guy who bought my car. :p
 

98BlakTacoma

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Ahhhh i see and yeah I'm doing some measuring for my subs because the box i have the top won't fit so need to make a new one

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Run 2 shallow mount 10s in the back. Mine is about 4 or 500 RMS and sounds amazing in the back. Fits right below my targa as well. I have the amp sitting just in front of it ( closer to the rear of the trunk ). Sound bounces off the back glass and fills the cabin beautifully. I have a Pioneer 10 Shallow mount in a box I built myself. Cost me about $25 to build and carpet it. Halfthe cost of a prebuilt one.