Another Nutjob... Mass shooting in Colorado

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http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater


(CNN) -- A heavily armed gunman tossed tear gas into the darkness of an Aurora, Colorado movie theater Friday and then sprayed the audience with gunfire during an early morning screening of the new Batman movie, killing 12 and wounding 38 others, authorities said.
One of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Police arrested a man believed to be the shooter in a rear parking lot of the theater, Frank Fania, a police spokesman, told CNN. The suspect was not immediately identified. Police said he was a man in his 20s from Aurora.
"He did not resist. He did not put up a fight," Fania said. Police seized a rifle and a handgun from the suspect, and another gun was found in the theater, he said.
Suspect warns of explosives in his home
KMGH: Mass shooting inside Aurora movie theater
Witness: Little girl wasn't moving Witness sees shots through theater wall Police describe Batman shooting scene
Oates said there was no evidence of a second gunman, and FBI spokesman Jason Pack said it did not appear the incident was related to terrorism.
President Barack Obama said he and first lady Michelle Obama were "shocked and saddened" by the shooting and pledged the administration's support for victims of the shooting.
"As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family," it said.
Chaos broke out during the showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" at the Century Aurora 16 theater when the shooting began, police and witnesses said.
Police said the gunman "appeared" in the front of the theater and threw a smoke bomb before opening fire. A federal law enforcement official told CNN the smoke bomb described by witnesses was tear gas. It was unclear how the man got into the theater, but witnesses told CNN affiliate KUSA that he came in through an emergency door.
One movie-goer, who was not identified, told KUSA the gunman was wearing a gas mask.
KUSA: One person in custody
Some people in the audience thought the thick smoke and gunfire was a special effect accompanying the movie, police and witnesses said.
"We just heard a pop, pop, pop, pop," said Quentin Caldwell, who was attending the Batman showing in an adjacent theater.
Cell phone video taken by someone at the theater showed scores of people screaming and fleeing the building. Some had blood on their clothes.
One police officer carried a girl believed to be about 9 with gunshot wounds to her back out of the theater, a witness said. "She wasn't moving."
Officers rushed many of the wounded to hospitals in their patrol cars.
Authorities also have evacuated the suspect's Aurora apartment building after "he made a statement about explosives" in his unit, Oates said.
The shooter used at least four guns -- an "AK type" rifle, a shotgun and two handguns, the federal law enforcement official told CNN.
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents have searched the suspect's car and went to his home to search for explosives, agency spokesman Tom Mangan said.
Law-enforcement officers who searched the the suspect's apartment found "items of interest," a federal law enforcement source involved in the investigation told HLN. He did not elaborate.
A woman who lives across the street from where the suspect is believed to live said her building had been evacuated by police around 4 a.m.
"They told us there was a bomb or bomb material located in the house across the street from us." Rebecca Bradshaw said.
In addition to looking into the possibilty of explosives, ATF agents also are conducting emergency traces on the weapons used to see how they were obtained, Mangan said.
KWGN: Witnesses first thought gunfire was part of movie
Police initially said 14 people had died -- 10 in the theater and four at area hospitals, but revised the death toll to 12 later Friday morning, according to Lanigan.
Several people remained in critical condition at area hospitals, however.
Of the wounded, at least 20 were being treated at the University of Colorado Hospital, said spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery. All of the wounded suffered from gunshot wounds, which ranged from minor to critical, she said.
"They're arriving by police, by ambulance. Some are walking in," she said.
The victims being treated there ranged in age from 3 months to 45, the hospital said.
Denver Health Center had six patients from the shooting, one of them in critical condition, five in fair, said Shelly Davis, house supervisor.
Swedish Health Center spokeswoman Nicole Williams said her hospital was treating three people, two of them in critical and one in fair condition. A fourth patient was on the way, she said.
Parker Adventist Hospital was treating two people for minor injuries, according to a spokeswoman.
Hundreds of police officers descended on the theater, and the FBI has joined the investigation.
"We were calling for help from every police and fire agency," Fania said.
Aurora, a Denver suburb, is about 13 miles from Littleton, Colorado -- site of the April 1999 Columbine High School massacre.
In that incident, two teenage students, Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris, armed themselves with guns and bombs and opened fire inside the high school. They killed 13 people and wounding 23 others before killing themselves.
 

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What a fucking piece of shit. Another small town psycho, probably thought Batman would really be there... And why the fuck were the emergency doors open to the outside? Every workplace needs a gun now it seems like. Wish I would have been there to put two to the center mass...

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DreamerTheresa;1858953 said:
Tear that fucker's limbs off and feed him to a gaggle of rats.

What are the concealed carry laws like there? I wish SOMEone had been carrying. :(

Carry laws in Colorado are pretty good, imo. Nothing would have stopped anyone with a permit from carrying. Perfectly legal. They were talking about it on the radio and made some good points regarding that possibility. Sounds like there was enough smoke/gas that not many would have even been able to get a shot had they even been armed. He had a gas mask and bp vest apparently and threw a couple tear gas or smoke grenades before shooting.

It was also in a lower income area. Id guess the number of conceal permit holders in that area is a little on the low side.

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That's where situational awareness comes in. I would have been making moves as soon as the gas popped. Tragic day to say the least.

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"One police officer carried a girl believed to be about 9 with gunshot wounds to her back out of the theater, a witness said. "She wasn't moving.""
Christ...
 

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Wow and some people believe stuff like this wouldnt happen if guns were banned........ i mean come on its not like u can buy teargas grenades in wallmart if crazy psychotic people can get tear gas, guns would be no problem to get ahold of.......... i kinda wonder if there were any carry permit holders there that left their guns at home because "i am just going to the movies with my family....dont need to be sitting on my gun all night"
 

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Numba1Stuna;1858968 said:
And why the fuck were the emergency doors open to the outside?
This is what I'm interested in... did someone let him in? Every theater I've ever been to that I can remember, did not have handles on the outside of the emergency exits.

jdmfreak;1858997 said:
Wow and some people believe stuff like this wouldnt happen if guns were banned........ i mean come on its not like u can buy teargas grenades in wallmart if crazy psychotic people can get tear gas, guns would be no problem to get ahold of.......... i kinda wonder if there were any carry permit holders there that left their guns at home because "i am just going to the movies with my family....dont need to be sitting on my gun all night"
You know, some people are just too naive to believe that criminals or the people like this would be unable to get guns if they were outlawed. You know, kind of like how prohibition really put a hamper on access to alcohol back in the day, and the war on drugs makes it impossible to get possession of narcotics...

Personally, I feel pretty safe from stuff like this happening here in Wyoming. Same thing with Texas I'm sure. You are best to assume that everywhere you go, there is SOMEONE that is armed, at all times.

I do wonder of the guy's motivation here...

Oh, and who wants to bet that Counterstrike (a game that was HUGE about 8 years ago) will be blamed for this? :nono:
 

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GrimJack;1859062 said:
On reading this a second time, one things sticks out... who brings a three month old baby to see the opening night of a Batman film? That's hardcore.

Thats a good point.... i now realize i feel really bad for the same people i am usually completely pissed at.. weird how a tragity changes things
 

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Apparently, no one has ever had someone open the emergency exit doors to sneak into a movie before. You guys realize how easy that is, right? We can quarterback this shit all day and still not come to the realization that none of us know the level of protection he was wearing. Was he wearing just ballistic protection, or did he have on a plate carrier and a combat load of 210 rounds? A CCW'er MAY have distracted him a little longer so more people could have got out.

With that said, this is going to reek havoc with current 2A issues.
 

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CTsupra;1859242 said:
Apparently, no one has ever had someone open the emergency exit doors to sneak into a movie before. You guys realize how easy that is, right? We can quarterback this shit all day and still not come to the realization that none of us know the level of protection he was wearing. Was he wearing just ballistic protection, or did he have on a plate carrier and a combat load of 210 rounds? A CCW'er MAY have distracted him a little longer so more people could have got out.

With that said, this is going to reek havoc with current 2A issues.

News reports said he had a tactical bulletproof vest, "tactical" pants (not sure if that means armored or just had magazine holders or what), throat protector, gas mask, groin protector, an AR-15, 2 40 cal Glocks and a shotgun. Oh, and the tear gas that started it all. To top it off, his apartment was rigged with multiple explosives and triggers.

Doesn't sound like much could have been done to stop him. I think even a combat veteran would have trouble with only a pistol in a room filled with tear gas going up against a fully armored, gas masked assailant with a rifle, shotgun and a couple handguns.

Very sad. My thoughts are with those involved. I'm sure many people will have lifelong damage, both emotionally and physically due to this piece of shit. :(