7m stock intake
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gofastgeorge;1385052 said:
:3d_frown:
If you're only looking for loud, go for it, but doing so generally causes power loss. This has been discussed ad nauseum, try searching helmholtz, resonator and dyno.
so if i replace the entire intake with aftermarket 3'' intake piping but keep the maf and replace the stock airbox with a 3'' high flow filter i'll lose power?
negligible amount of difference, but you will get a nice wooosh sound if you take away the resonator. the aftermarket filter would make up for any frequency loss
Things to improve intake:
1. Remove the stock paper filter and replace that area with a high flow filter (AEM DryFlo, for example), then build a heat shield around it. Or you can just lengthen the piping so you have the filter all the way down at the bumper, but that might require cutting.
2. Replace the accordian section with something smooth.
3. Replace the AFM with a MAF. This is more involved.
Don't remove the resonator unless you want sound. You won't benefit from removing it. BTW, you could have just read the N/A Upgrade FAQ and found this out. It's one of the stickies up top.
1. Remove the stock paper filter and replace that area with a high flow filter (AEM DryFlo, for example), then build a heat shield around it. Or you can just lengthen the piping so you have the filter all the way down at the bumper, but that might require cutting.
2. Replace the accordian section with something smooth.
3. Replace the AFM with a MAF. This is more involved.
Don't remove the resonator unless you want sound. You won't benefit from removing it. BTW, you could have just read the N/A Upgrade FAQ and found this out. It's one of the stickies up top.
Ma70.Ent;1386343 said:
Yeah, about $600+ more involved :aigo:
I talked with Toysport about this, because they used to offer a VPC for the 7MGE,
and they say that unless the engine highly built
(Big cams, big valves, high compression pistons, etc)
You will not see a difference in power,
and even with lots of mods, the gain is negligiable.
You got that backwards, ma70.ent, replace the MAF with an AFM...
If you have a donor turbo Supra you can do it, but it wouldn't be worth it...
If you have a donor turbo Supra you can do it, but it wouldn't be worth it...
7mge comes with vaf (vain air flow) .......(mass air flow) is better......vain is one of the earlyiest air meetering sytems to be used in fi systems and is prolly the least acurate of all afm's (air flow meetering) systems ever
RazoE;1386489 said:
Hey, try reading this:
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=FI&P=94
87tomanymods;1386666 said:
Bzzzz....WRONG!
Educate yourself:
http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h34.pdf
The terminology is important, especially on this car.
i did read it jdub very carefully thanks for prooving me right in that link (http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h34.pdf) they cover the following .........maf (mass air flow sensor) gm style ........ vaf (vane air flow meter) used in 7mge .... and wait for it........ (karmen vortex air flow meter) used in 7mgte (no abreviation or acrinym) not one single mention of an (afm) ..............so educate yourself (i already went to lincoln tech) (and got my ase certs)
Ok smartass...you have not been around here long enough to hear an AFM called a MAF more times than I can count. There is a difference and they have different names for a reason...AFM is not a general term like you said. Just because they have the word "air" in the acronym doesn't make one big category. Every one of the sensors you mention are very different.
You might think about going back to class.
You might think about going back to class.