1GGTE Engine Woes

Big Rob

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In February my timing belt let go which I replaced and reset all the valve lash. After getting the car back on the road it hasn't driven the same.

Here is a list of issues:

1. Cranking isn't as crisp as it used to be, there is noticeable longer cranking period.

2. Fuel consumption has increase from 10L/100km to 12/13L/100km.

3. When driving the car cold is very odd:

eg. Take the throttle to ~20%, the car slowly accelerates and holds a steady speed whilst the turbo chargers audibly continue to increase speed. From here there is a considerable hole where increasing throttle percentages do cause the car to accelerate and gain speed. More throttle fed in there is a kick where the car accelerates, if the engine is revved out with full load there is a situation around 5000rpm - 7800rpm that feels like lots of timing is pulled and re advanced over and over which creates a VERY jerky ride.

There are no codes, the engine light hasn't illuminated.

The plugs are fine, I re-gapped them slightly tighter around 0.65mm to see if that would combat any of the issues.

All cylinders are within 5psi of compression, the gauge was reading 185psi - 190psi which seems very high on a 8.5 - 1 compression ratio, but they are even.

Timing at idle is 10deg BTDC.

The reluctor gaps in the distributor have been reset to the 0.2 - 0.4mm tolerance.

The car drives pretty well as it used to once warmed up my butt dyno believes it makes similar power. There is just a clear night and day difference between cold and warm and it uses more fuel.

Any ideas are very appreciated,

Rob
 

Big Rob

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This weekend I'll get onto checking the water temp sensor, cold injector timer, the AFM, ICV, and the ogygen sensor.

Spent a few hours going through the TSRM, an english 1G-GE repair manual and a Japanese 1G-GTE manual, why couldn't it be in english.

I'm thinking this "hole" could be the cold start injector circuit not en richening then the engine is cold. As I previously said there was a need for a considerable TP change before the car would accelerate again, maybe there is enough TP change to enrichen the mixture(accell enrich) until it leans out and missires. That miss fire could be what I previously described as large timing retard/advance.

How does that sound?
 

Big Rob

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No idea but that would make sense I cant find a description of operation, but I see no need for it once the car is running.

I guess the same situation could happen if the temp sensor was fubar.

BTW I filled up today and it got worse 13.5L/100km.
 

SpoolinSupra

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i second the cam timing...re check it, could be off one tooth and wouldn't really affect the ability to build compression, but it would take longer to reach the same compression doing the test..also cause the car to crank longer to start...worth a shot
 

Big Rob

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Did some diagnosis today:

1. AFM resistances are all within specification.

2. Water temp sensor resistance is within specification.

3. Cold start injector resistance are within specification.

4. Oxygen sensor is fine as per tsrm.

Just did a freeway fuel consumption test, although the distance was limited to 40km we just wanted to see some numbers and repeatability.

On the first leg consumption was 9.2L/100km and the return leg was 7.2L/100km. Both trips were in the same condition but with different pumps obviously and we are questioning the accuracy of their measurement. BTW the fuel level was brought up to a visible level both times.
 

Big Rob

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So after checking these things the car has turned back to normal. Its been rather cold here lately <10deg c and no issues at start up. Hopefully next time my fuel economy returns.