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The only thing that you said that didn't seem right to me until i researched it was about the diesel engines. And why do you think anyone is blaming you and you only. Everyone that has participated in this thread has had something to do with the flaming, no one is innocent and don't try to play...

As far as the turbo A supra goes i have no clue seeing as i am not a Toyota guru. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable on that will poke there head in to say high. In regards to the ITR, yes it was built with track racing in mind, but so was the NSX and S2000. The civic si's and RSX's were not...

what racing series are you referring too... I never disagreed and said that it wasnt possible for them to run long endurance races they just need some mods first. And if your referring to the N1 series of course they will all have giant inter coolers and oil coolers. Anyways we have been talking...

in response to the oil temps i was referring to stock v stock. With enough money you can make anything run properly. I don't recall ever saying fwd was better than rwd. RWD is better in corners and better for drag. RWD is prolly the best for everything except maybe snow in rain in some cases...

so your saying that you could run your supra for hours on the track without overheating, or loosing power from the oil being so hot from those turbos. I don't know why you insist on being a sarcastic ass about this. I tried to apologize for the things i incorrectly stated but if you want to be a...

to tturnpaw you took what i meant about efficiency the wrong way. Turbos are very efficient and everyone on this board knows it better than most. I was simply referring to the track ability with the high oil temps that turbos create. And before i get flamed for that statement too i agree...

the beetle is one hell of a speed demon. the 1/4 is faster than its 0-6 by 2 seconds, and the 1/4 is 22 seconds. Now thats fast!! Anyways regarding the autocross statement made the ITR wins DS nationally. It is the car to have for that class and it is very competitive in STX. The ITR was built...

Just thought id pop back in to show you guys this. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1906430&page=1 a thread on honda-tech making fun of ricers. The real honda enthusiests who roam that forum hate ricers just as much as you guys do. Anyways the whole reason i posted in this forum is...

exactly my point, and the lack of torque is made up by gearing. I agree with you jeff and take no offense by what you said. It just seems like there is a lot of hate from this end. I hate the stupid ricer as much as the next guy but to generalize honda as being all abou tthat ricer image is just...

soo making 200hp out of a 1.8 liter is a fluke.

VTEC was around way before VVT-i. And A/C was optional on 97/98 and standard on 00/01.

Yea i was alittle contradictiry, i will agree with that. And you are right i shouldnt take that shit talking to heart, but they really have no reason to shit talk. They should be able to appreciate a reliable track car which the ITR is. honda didnt go turbo for a reason. I hope some of you...

Mine is a 98 and it came from the factory with AC.

Honestly I have nothig against you toyota guys. I know there are alot of ricer lsers that give honda a bad name, but there are some purists out there. There are USDM ITR's for those of you that dont think they exist. They cam with the B18C5 a 195hp 130tq. The GS-R came with the B18C1 a 170hp...

Mine came with AC and they don't have an extra cup holder they have the same one as the GS-R.

Hey man pep up there is one thing you got going for you all the supra guys support you. That doesn't happen with Honda guys. That is why I roll with my best friend who drives a supra cause Honda guys are assholes.

Actually....VTEC in the GS-R happens at 4400 RPMs then the butterfly opens at 5200 RPMs. Plus 5500 RPMs isn't all that high only a little over half way through the power band.

Hey everyone I don't own a supra, and I'm not really planning on having one in the future. I'm here so I can learn a lot more about different cars and Forced Induction. So anyways just though I'd say hello.

What the topic started failed to mention about this is that there where three people in the GS-R and it was only at 40% throttle in 3rd the whole time. I know cause I was in the back seat of the teg.