Wheel angle / \ question.

tonysupra

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I heard sometimes your wheels tip at an angle like this / \ when you lower your car. Is this true? If so what would you get with shocks and springs to avoid this wheel tip?
 

IJ.

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If you lower the rear too far you actually run out of adjustment in the cams to get it anywhere near aligned! (I ended up cutting and welding some transverse arms to get it right on my car)

Front seems to have enough adjustment to correct it even when slammed.
 

xarewhyayen

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That is what we call excessive camber, you get that because of the angles of your suspension are set for a certain height. Like Ij said, the rear isnt as adjustable as the front, but when you're creative you can find ways about it. Set her on an alignment rack and goto town
 

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Tony-The inward lean of the upper part of the wheel you speak of is better known as negative camber. Camber itself is just the angle of the wheel on the longitudinal axis (front to back), which causes the wheel to lean in or out.

Negative camber helps cars handle better around turns by allowing more of the contact surface of the tire to meet the pavement. Excessive negative camber is not something that you want on a street car as it will only cause your tires to wear quickly and unevenly. If you'd like further explanation, please speak up.
 

tonysupra

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Thanks for the info. I understand now what negative cambers are and how it effects turning. So I should just lower my car moderately with springs, and if I see excessive negative cambers I should weld some transverse arms on there. If it's not too excessive, I can leave it?
 

NashMan

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well you can low the car with springs that don't slam your car

stock ajust ment can do about 2 inc lower max i think of the top of my head

but if you buy ebock spring you not have an issue or try h&r if you want to be lower h&r may be tad to low but nothign to the point of huge camber where
 

IJ.

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In the rear you hit a point that while there is still adjustment you get a choice of a good camber setting or a a good toe setting it's one or the other.

If you get the camber right you end up with toe out making the car very stable in a straight line but very reluctant to turn in for corners.

Set the toe right and you'll have slight positive camber.

There is a range where both will work but won't be perfect and our cars are very fussy about alignment once you bump the speeds up.