NA-T... How to run turbo oil & water lines?

[fiyota]

Just in the process of my NA-T and I have stumbled across something that hasn't been mentioned yet that I can find... I thought the NA Block would have the plumbing for the turbo, and just be blocked off. But turns out it doesn't.. big suprise.. anywho, what should I do to run oil and water to the turbo? Anbody who is NA-T what did you do?

Thanks

 

[Burntz]

i believe the pressure line feeds off of the oil pressure gauge spot thingy ma bobber

and the return just goes down into a drain bung on the oil pan

for the coolant idk

 

[supra_ed]

burntz is right about oil- tee-off the oil sender (which is #8 pipe thread) and u will probably have to tap a hole in the oil pan. as far as coolant, check the back side of the front engine cover, there might be a port for a coolant line (thats where it is on the gte's). the other coolant line u can run to the thermostat housing- tee off a coolant line if u have to. but man that sucks the blocks are that different. i have a buddy who was lookin to turbo his na, i was hoping a lot of the gte oil ports would be on the na block, just plugged.

 

[Sl1dewaysSupra]

I am also stumped on getting water to the turbo. I got the oil issues figured out tho.

 

[Burntz]

btw, as far as i know (and IJ told me this) they ports are their. you might have to dill and tap a few, but they are def their.

and if i remember correctly, you dont HAVE to run coolant to the turbo.

and mdcmotorsports sells the lines you need w/ the correct threads i believe. its a kit thats like $35, and has the ss lines w/ correct fittings

 

[Neal]

cant u use a thermostat housing from a gte.....i could be totally wrong
i havnt done this convo....this is the first thought that came to mind

 

[fiyota]

hmm, well I was just going to turbo my na motor for a little bit, but it seems like a lot of work now just to get the oil and coolant to the turbo... hmm.. I do have a fresh fully rebuilt gte block and head sitting in my garage, but no hoist... I'm trying to do this quickly for suprafest this year.... I think I can figure out the oil... how long will a ct26 last without water cooling?

Also, what about the second knock sensor, what do I do about that? Again, I thought it would have the hole in the block already and be blocked off.. again I was wrong and it's completely filled in... any ideas on that one?

 

[Burntz]

i think you are fine running the turbo w/o cooling, im pretty sure ppl run high hp and are fine. do a search though.

you can do a re-wire to make it run off of 1 knock sensor as well

 

[fiyota]

oh really? that would be great if I could just run 1 knock sensor for a bit.. I'll have to look into that..

As for the oil.. what should I do?

 

[Supraholics]

Is not as hard as you would think, being that you can use 7M-GTE parts.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31752


I wouldn't recommend using a T off the oil pressure sensor.

There are a couple of ways you can do it. It all depends how much you want to spend. Is really not that complicated.

- You can use stock turbo plumbing and mod it.
- You can also use SS braided lines and a sandwich plate

etc etc etc.

For the water lines, same deal. Let me know which way you would like to go and I may be able to help you.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

Ok first of all, if you dont know....

DON'T POST

Its the blind leading the blind.

The oil sending unit is NOT A US, A/N, OR ANY OTHER STD PIPE THREAD. It is a BSP thread.

To feed the turbo, you'll need a bsp "tee" fitting (we do offer these). One side of the tee screws into the block, the other side the oil sending unit, and the last side the turbo feed.

To return the turbo, you need a custom flange on the turbo (again we offer these) and you'll need a -10 oil bung to weld into the oil pan. You'll need to remove the oil pan to do this.

As for the water, its not 100% needed although it does help.

To plumb the water, remove the N/A water nipples on the back of the thermostat manifold and either run water lines off them, or get a pair of turbo water nipples.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

I wouldn't recommend using a T off the oil pressure sensor.

There are a couple of ways you can do it. It all depends how much you want to spend. Is really not that complicated.

- You can use stock turbo plumbing and mod it.

Oh really? Tell me oh drift king where you are going to pick up oil pressure.

- You can also use SS braided lines and a sandwich plate

No.

This leads to shavings in the oil pan, not to mention a leaky fittings.

 

[fiyota]

Thanks for the help MDC.. but I think I'm just going to go with my original plan and actually swap in my gte shortblock.. will make life much easier and be a lot more stable down the road when I start going for larger numbers.

I was wanting to start with the ge shortblock and try to learn how to tune with a maf-pro setup... plus it was something I could possibly pull off in a day or two and have some fun... Guess I didn't quite do enough research, all the things I read on doing the NA-T conversion, none of them mentioned anything about having to come up with a way to get oil and coolant to the turbo, as far as the walkthroughs went I assumed that the ge block could be outfitted with the same stuff as the gte block. I thought the ge block would be prepped for it and just have the spots blocked off.

 

[Supraholics]

MDC - there was a question posted here. I tried to help by answering it. I posted before your comment, so it was in no way directed or related to you. If you feel that by bashing some else's comments you can sell your products, then by all means go ahead. All I know is I turbocharged my Cressida and below is the proof.

I guess is very easy to be disrespectful on the internet.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

Easy tiger, I was simply asking where you planned on picking up oil pressure other than the oil port for the oil pressure sending unit?

 

[Alpinesupra]

listen to mdc he knows his stuff (trust me i talk to jeff), and as mdc said running water or coolent is not necissary because if it were then EVERYONE would be running meth or water injection on their turbos.
think about it do you see any guys running water to their t3 or t4 turbo ect ect set ups and putting down bug numbers. . . i think not.
this is why we have turbo timers.

-sean

 

[IJ.]

Ok first of all, if you dont know....

DON'T POST

Its the blind leading the blind.

.

You'd hear the tumbleweeds rolling by in here ....

 

[CRE]

Easy tiger, I was simply asking where you planned on picking up oil pressure other than the oil port for the oil pressure sending unit?

How about from a flange mounted in place of the block off below the oil filter?

 

[Supraholics]

Easy tiger, I was simply asking where you planned on picking up oil pressure other than the oil port for the oil pressure sending unit?

Now, ^^^ that's a question. vvvvvv and this is sarcasm...

Oh really? Tell me oh drift king where you are going to pick up oil pressure.

I'm not sure how this is being read, but I tried to genuinely help this guy with what I know works! Now, if you have another method that also works, that's great!!! There are always many ways of accomplishing the same thing. Why ignorant and unpleasant posts, and did I forget to mention disrespectful??? You might want to tone it down just a bit.

I'm sure you're far too knowledgeable to even bother to read the steps of my NA-T install, so I'm not going to waste your time, nor mine.

 

[lifted]

lets quit argueing and get to the info. i would like some pics of where you installed the feed and drain for the turbo oil.