Almost arrested for something absurd

drunk_medic

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This 3-day weekend starts off with a bang!

I separate from the military in less than 40 days, so instead of my 3 subordinates getting their performance reports in January, they are considered overdue NOW. Of course, I was notified of this just before I left the deployed location, and I don't have a laptop, so I had no work done on it AT ALL. I returned home from a 90+ day deployment on Monday night. Well, the bosses are making me come in all weekend to get these done instead of getting to take my 2 weeks off, so I am already pissed. They say that I can come in wearing "civilian clothes", so that's not so bad. I woke up a little late, but I still ride my bicycle to the corner store to get some bottled water and food for the day. I get my stuff together and start off, and some guy starts yelling as I am pedaling away. I'm just hearing "Hey! Hey you!", so I keep going. Slowly, but going. Then I hear "On the bike!". I stop and this Airman with a black beret [security forces] says that I need to be wearing a helmet. I've been riding my bicycle the whole 2 miles to work for almost 2 years now without a helmet and have never been harassed so okay, whatever.. I walk about 1/4 mile with my bike and say "Forget this - I'm running late" and jump back on the bike. No sooner do I jump on the bike and round the corner does the same damn cop stop me. It's like he was just itching for it and waiting for me.
Well, he asks for my ID card and asks if I am in the military, then he has me put my hands on the hood of his car. Two other security forces vehicles show up and I am instructed, cuffed, questioned, searched and put in the back of the car. The first guy asked "Did you know I could arrest you for disobeying what I told you to do". I said that I didn't. There was no telling whether or not he was even on duty, since the cops hang out at that store on base 24/7 - almost like it's their freaking church. Then someone else asked me the same question. I said no, and that the other guy already asked me that. Then they asked why, if I said I was going to work, did I have groceries and why was I not in uniform. Nevermind the fact that I was well into the maintenance area of the base and it would be stupid for me to be there for anything but work [it's an area of the base that really can't be used for a shortcut, especially not if you are going from the corner-store to any place other than work]. I laughed because I was already pissed about being cuffed and having to work on my 3-day weekend, and I couldn't believe that he would think I would be lying about going to work. I told him that I am overdue on EPRs and that I was told that I COULD wear what I wanted. THEN he asked me where I worked, like he couldn't believe that someone coming in on their own time to do work would not come in wearing their uniform.
Well, they kept me in the back of the car [listening to some decent music that was on the radio, by the way] for 15-20 minutes while they talked outside, and occasionally they would come back to check on me and ask another question or two. Finally they "let me go" and instead of taking me to the station they told me that I am lucky that they aren't taking me in, that I will not ride my bike without a helmet, and that my 1st Sergeant will get a report on Tuesday. What I don't really understand is if they were getting me for not wearing a helmet or for not listening to the direction of a security forces Airman.

How stupid is this?! I don't know how I have been able to stand nine years of this. I can't wait to get out of this damn organization. Just 1 month left...
Damn "the man".
 

Stanzaspeed

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wow... thats retarded. i hope that securtiy fellow sleeps better at night knowing that american tax dollars help him fight the evils of helmetless bike riders and jaywalkers.

glad it ended up alright in the end. :icon_bigg
 

SupraDreamPDR

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believe it or not, our (Security Forces) berets are dark blue, not black. And it is a rule that all bicycle riders, skateboarders, rollarbladers, etc where at least a helmet, just like how all Motorcyclists have to wear helmets, gloves, long pants and a bright colored vest if in BDU's whenever they ride onto base. but, that Amn was just being a dickhead... probably just outta Tech. School and power got to his head.
shit like that is what made me get out after 6 years... you should try and be a supervisor of a Security Forces troop!! talk about dumb airman.
 

drunk_medic

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I knew that the SF troops had a dark, dark blue beret, but anyone who sees it and doesn't know any better is going to think that it's black and has been thrown in the wash once or twice.

I've been to SF augmentee school before about 4 years ago when I was in Korea. These guys here were probably thinking I was a troublemaker since I knew exactly how to stand and put my hands and fingers for them when they went to cuff me. "He's done this before." LoL

I think what really got me was that I haven't worn a helmet for a long time and just now they harass me about it. I KNOW I've seen plenty of cops on base at the shopette [like I said, they are ALWAYS there! If you go there and don't see a police vehicle, they are responding to something on base or it's shift change] as I was riding in or riding away, and I have never been stopped, talked to or even looked at twice.

It just really sucks when you are already in a bad mood for various reasons and then you are harassed by the po-po. It's like "Dude, I just got back monday night from almost 100 days in the desert, my wife is in Wyoming visiting her family so I didn't even get the *welcome-home 'tang*, my boss screwed me over on getting days off because he really thought I was gonna re-enlist in the desert after I told him I was still getting out, and I'm getting ZERO days of my 3-day weekend whether I finish all of my paperwork in those 3 days or in 5 minutes. Now you're messing with me over something that's been a non-issue for 2 years. Cut me some slack."

I told my wife that I'm doing the Martin Luther King/Gandhi thing with nonviolent protest - I'm going to walk my bicycle to and from any place I go on base. It's only 30 more days, and the exercise can't hurt any. When the cops see me doing that and inquire, I'll be happy to explain. I'd love to see one of them accuse me of riding it, too.
 
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Pokey

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yep, military does suck! here in korea, we have to wear a reflective vest with a helmet when riding a bike, and we have to have a reflective belt on our backpack!
 

racingtoyota007

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My dad was stationed in Yongsang i think it was i was there when i was about 11 or 12 it was a while ago but i allways remember Lots of crazy traffic o_O. Sorry for OT but yea..
 

SupraMario

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The MPs are just pissed cause they dont get to do anything.

LOL

When my dad was in the airforce, working on a B52, some MP wrote him up 2 times for not using a ladder to access the radios. So the 3rd time one of the pilots is pissed as hell that he cant take off, my dad tells him why(my dad had to send for step ladder LOL). The MP is standing there watching my dad, the pilot tells the MP to turn around, and turns to my dad and says lets see that SOB write you up while I'm here.
 

drunk_medic

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Well, today I did it - nonviolent protest. I proved that the Security Forces on this base have NO integrity in the process. Here's what happened:
In the morning I walked the bike to work. Nothing happened, but on the walk home, one of the guys who showed up yesterday called me over in a parking lot while I was walking the bike. I was almost home, I was never on the bike, but somehow he got a call saying that someone on patrol saw me riding it around. He asked why, after yesterday, would he get a call that I was doing the same thing that they let me off for. I told him that nobody saw me riding the bike. He said that his patrol saw me doing it. I told him to call the witness on the radio to come over and I would call him a liar to his face. He said that the person was on patrol and they can't break away from it [convenient]. I told him that I've been riding my bike on base for 2 years and have never, until yesterday, been harassed or even looked at twice by security forces for it, even times I went to the shopette [their hangout]. I told him that I walked my bike today and was testing them, that someone was a liar, and that I guaran-goddamn-tee that I never rode on the bike. Well then he tells me not to test them, and starts asking me questions about "don't you have a helmet?" [Told him it's broken - it's so dirty and messed up, I wouldn't wear it] and "don't you have a license?" [I do, but there's no point in driving to work when you live so close]. "Can't you go buy a helmet?" I told him I have to go to the exchange to buy one, and since I just got back Monday night, and have pretty much been at work since then, I haven't had time".

I f*cking hate liars. Even more than liars, I hate to be CALLED a liar.

I think I am going to get a helmet and not wear it while walking the bike to and from work, or walk to and from work without a bike while wearing a helmet.. making sure to stop at the shopette every time I pass it, and wave at the cops every time I see them.

I'm going to be your Mahatma.
 

drunk_medic

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I wish that I had a video camera. If I could have videotaped my walk home and then their harassment... it would have been AWESOME to play back to them and then show to our respective 1st Sergeants.
 

Doward

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Seriously, pick up a video camera, and DO IT.

I'm not in the military, so maybe I have little to no say in it, but I really hate to think that LIARS are representing our fighting forces in the military!
 

SP 7M

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DM, I feel ya on this one, man. I'm all too well-aware of the behavior your bosses and the SFs are displaying.

I really hope your separation goes well for you. It really takes a lot of guts to get out, especially after your amount of time in.

My last day of work in the military will be next Friday (I'll probably get the whole week off, though), which will make it five years for me. I'm both excited and intimidated about getting out, but I know it's the right thing for me to do.

Thanks a lot for serving our country.

MKivSupra_Rob said:
just quit?
One word: "Contract."

MDCmotorsports said:
Lets save every one from hurting themselves on bikes, rollerblades, and skateboards....

"Lets go blow shit up."

Fucking military irony.
Yes, irony seems to be obvious here, but the military can't afford to lose people, especially outside of work. I've been through so many safety briefs that it's not even funny. I've seen so many statistics about people getting injured or killed while on their free time and that's why there are such restrictions on what we do. Yes, plenty of them are unnecessary, but with positive intent. ;)

Pokey said:
yep, military does suck! here in korea, we have to wear a reflective vest with a helmet when riding a bike, and we have to have a reflective belt on our backpack!
That's an awfully petty complaint there to make after such a statement about the military sucking. Are you fairly new at this?
 

RHDMK3

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I fucking hate it when the cops decide to fuck you just because they can. I am here at Yokota AB and they try to pull bullshit like that on me all the time. Its stupid shit like that, that makes me want to get out when my contract is up in about 9 or 10 months.
 

SP 7M

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RHDMK3 said:
I fucking hate it when the cops decide to fuck you just because they can. I am here at Yokota AB and they try to pull bullshit like that on me all the time. Its stupid shit like that, that makes me want to get out when my contract is up in about 9 or 10 months.
So serve the rest of your time to the best of your ability and get out. The military life is for some and not for others, so make the best decision you can with the information you have.
 

drunk_medic

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The really sad thing is, about 1 year ago I was still set on being in for 20+ years total; I wanted to retire. I've had such a hard year that I just can't take it anymore. I had an unfair boss who rode me into the ground. In fact, this weekend someone mentioned that and said "I don't know - for some reason that guy seemed to really have it out for you", and my 1st Sergeant told me "You've had it really rough this past year".
What makes me mad is, these people all had plenty of rank over me and they recognized, but did nothing to help. This past year HAS been hell for me. They gave me two jobs that required all-day attention, and would send me on errands all over base to waste my time on things that were NOT as important. I'm sorry but I'm not going to work 16 hours a day everyday - but there were times when they wanted me to. I distinctly remember working 12 hour shifts [not uncommon for my workcenter] for a period of two months, and then being chewed out and told by my flight chief that he doesn't care if I have to work 16 hour shifts.
That, along with working 12 hours in the day [6am-6pm] and being called in at 1am [!] to sign a piece of paper for an EXERCISE [I told them to never do that shit again - I can understand if we're going to war, but for training?! Forge my name or sign it yourself!] drove me insane. Seriously. I went to the mental health clinic on base last winter and had some serious talks with a counselor. Now, while that did some really great things for me and helped me out [went to a weekly anxiety group that lasted through spring], my job should never have broken me down like that. There was a point where I was thinking -no shit- about killing my supervisor, and about that time I knew I had to see someone. My wife's love and support were the only things keeping me sane, and from killing myself or others.
I think the culmination of all of those things made my mind up for me, and I knew I could do better. I knew that I could get out and find a job that:
Would pay better
Would have just as good of a benefits package
Would not deploy me for months
Would not require a uniform
Would not get into your personal life [because technically, you don't have one in the military]

I just feel like I can do better. Even if I CAN'T get a higher paying job, I KNOW that I can get a job where I will be happier.