aem tru-boost settings

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I have an aem tru-boost controller that I have installed. I have it working, but I don't think that it is how it's supposed to be. Does anyone know what to set the spring rate at? I did some research on here for it but came up with nothing that helps. Also, I have a Boss TO4E 61 ball bearing turbo.
 

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I have one .. It was a little bit of a pain to figure out.. (thanks to IDEALSUPRA for figureing it out for me!!) Here are my settings.
My turbo is an Upgraded CT to the 60-1. So keep that in mind when you set yours up. What turbo and mods do you have?? I also have an SAFC 2 for the tune. LEX AFM 550cc injectors. its all in my sig. Good luck!

This is in order of how they come up. Holding both buttons down for a few sec. then pushing both to change the setting.

scb - 10.0
scr - .10
sen - 1
ala - 17.0
spr - 6.80 - this one was the PAIN this is the SPRING RATE..
ful - 20.0 - this one just sets when you want the lights to sweep to max.
a - 62 - this is what you change for boost level. 62 gets me 13psi (only change this # adding 1 at a time. 62 to 63 is more then 1psi.)
b - 62 - I have b set the same. I will most likely leave it there.
 

all4mx

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Thanks for the info. I have a TO4E Boss series 61 turbo, so I may have to set the spring rate a little higher, but this is a good starting point. Also, do you know how to use the scramble boost. I have it wired up to a toggle switch, but I don't exactly know what it is for nor have I used it yet. My mods are in my sig as well.
 

mkIIIman089

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Hmm... sounds to me like this product could use a little revision. It sounds un-necessarily confusing to set up properly... unless of course... actually, nevermind. ;)
 

IJ.

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As always with an EBC start very conservative and work your way up making sure to verify what each change has done (I did a 32 psi pull by accident that on most motors would have been fatal) ;)
 

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I got bit when I 1st got mine by an overly aggressive gain setting, luckily I backed out of it before it spiked as high as it could have.
 

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IJ. said:
LOL I ran mine to the limiter..... :aigo:

I was checking logs later on and saw the 32psi.
But I'm sure you had ridiculously low timing values in the map programmed ahead of time so the car fell on its face right?

Or had you planned on running 32psi eventually and had it up in the map
 

IJ.

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Brent: Bingo I always have minimal Ignition advance programmed in above 100% just in case, the fuel I use is 104 octane and at the time I had the 3mm MHG in so it was around the 8:1 compression.

I got lucky and didn't flush the motor.

Normally I'd have an overboost cut but that was on the Wolf and when you ran an external Map you couldn't use boost cut.
 

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I agree with whats been said. Its a little harder to program then it should be. They explain in the setup guide what each setting is, but they do not go into any detail about how to their settings work. I do not use the scramble at all so I cant help there. Just be carefull with it. As IJ said you could make a small change but set the boost to 70 and not mean to!
 

billwert

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I have one of these Boost controllers and have had no problems out of it. I read that the stock spring rate was 7psi somewhere (I think on here or on SF). Right now I have my b setting set to 45% duty cycle which nets me around 9psi. They are very easy to install as I installed mine in about 30-45mins and had it running and set up. Just make sure you have it set to an Internal wastegate or it will not function at all. I also do not have the scramble boost mode enabled as just switching between the modes is enough for me. One push of a button and I go from 20% duty cycle to 45% duty cycle. Sorry for the long post. Bill.
 

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emiliorescigno said:
This thread has me nervous, I am going to be installing my Tru-Boost this weekend...

Does anyone know the stock spring rate of a CT-26?

Its not hard to install. Just be carefull with the settings. I would say my settings are close, just change the a and b settings to a lower number. Like billwert's setting of 45 will make it 9psi. and my setting of 62 gets me 13psi.

Start LOW so you dont hurt anything. What mods do you have? I dont want to start a HUGE thing about it but if you are turning up the boost I hope you have at least done a HG, I would not trust a 100% stock engine with higher boost levels. Thats asking for problems..
 

emiliorescigno

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JMDigital said:
Its not hard to install. Just be carefull with the settings. I would say my settings are close, just change the a and b settings to a lower number. Like billwert's setting of 45 will make it 9psi. and my setting of 62 gets me 13psi.

Start LOW so you dont hurt anything. What mods do you have? I dont want to start a HUGE thing about it but if you are turning up the boost I hope you have at least done a HG, I would not trust a 100% stock engine with higher boost levels. Thats asking for problems..

Don't worry, my engine just got a fresh rebuild, fully machined, ARP'd, with MHG and Ross forged pistons. I also have a full 3" catless exhaust, bosch Bypass valve, crummy eBay downpipe (which will be gone soon I hope), and Apex'i intake.

I already have the Tru-Boost wired in to the electrical system and a vacuum source for the boost reading, I just don't have the solenoid hooked up at all. I just want to gain a firm understanding of what I'm doing with the boost controller before I start pressing buttons and screwing things up. Right now I just want to be able understand and operate my turbo correctly (as well as set my stock CT-26 to 10psi), so things go smoothly in the future once I upgrade more.
 
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emiliorescigno

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Idealsupra said:
6.8PSI .... set it to 7

That works for me...
Once the spring is set (at 6.8, makes sense), what relation does the duty cycle (10%-90%) have to do with it? I guess I don't know what the terminology "Duty Cycle" refers to.

Does that mean a duty cycle of 10% would give boost equivalent of 110% of 6.8 psi? Or am I just asking too many questions? :biglaugh:
 

billwert

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That I'm not real sure on. From what I understand it makes the Solenoid Work at a larger duty cycle. Duty cycle as in more boost flowing through it? I don't know that I take a full understanding of it other than it flows more boost. I guess it opens the solenoid more to allow more boost pressure to be made. Someone Elaborate please. Thanks Bill.
 

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Found this
http://www.splparts.com/doc/tech/EBC.htm

It explains how the controllers work. It talks about Duty Cycle.. here is a quote..

I do not know enough about this subject to say that this is 100% correct, use it as a guide only. do some google searching on the subject and allways start with low numbers.

Here is the quote -
Most boost controllers accomplish this by figuring out what percentage (or ratio) of the time the solenoid would connect the wastegate to the atmosphere vs. connecting the wastegate to the intake. This ratio is often known as the DUTY CYCLE, the duty cycle is directly related to the boost level.

How to set up an electronic boost controller in manual mode

In manual mode, there are two numbers that has to be determined: DUTY CYCLE (sometimes also labelled as SET) and GAIN. The optimal gain number always depends on the boost level you want to run, if you are running very high boost, then you want the wastegate held closed for a longer time since it takes a longer time to reach the higher boost. So the first step is to determine the duty cycle:

1. Start off with a low DUTY CYCLE and GAIN setting.

2. In a higher gear (3rd or 4th), run the car to see what boost level the duty cycle corresponds to by watching what steady/stable boost level is reached. Increment the DUTY CYCLE with each run till you reach the boost level you want. Fine tune as necessary. If you notice boost spikes, then you have set the gain too high, you do not want spikes at this point since that makes it more difficult to see the steady/stable boost level.

The reason why you should use the higher gears is because in the low gears, things can happen too fast to figure out what the steady/stable boost level is. Now that you have figured out the duty cycle that will give you the boost level you want, the next thing to do is to work out the gain:

3. Make runs in lower gear (1st or 2nd), increment gain with each run till you see boost spikes. Then fine tune it till there is little or no boost spike. This is your optimum gain setting for that boost level.

The reason why you should use the lower gear now is because boost builds much quicker in the lower gears, so there is a higher tendency to boost spike.

When setting your boost controller, always have a passenger set the controller and watch the boost gauge for you, the driver should keep his eyes on the road!

Common problem

Sometimes if the gain is set too high, it may appear to have the same effect as the duty cycle. If you notice (especially in the higher gears) that you initially hit the boost level you want, but then it starts tapering off, then you might have set the gain too high and the duty cycle is not set correctly. Or you might have a boost leak...