7MGE HG and other goodies

ill Z

Back on the Grind
Mar 18, 2007
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Hello all,

I would like to give a breif introduction since this is my first post. I have been dissassembling and playing with a my 86.5 na Supra for a little while now. It had a bad stock HG with 138K on the odometer. Amongst other things going wrong with the car the engine was in suprisingly good shape for a blown HG in my opinion. I have not been registered to these forums for much time, however I have been doing random studies and research(via TSRM, Haynes repair manual, Supraforums.org and other various google results) on how to go about my repairs. I am basically at the point of reassembly with my engine so let me give a breif run down of what I am working with.

I have a Graphite ebay headgasket and gasket rebuild kit(for the top end).
I removed the stock head and decided to order a replacement since my original was in such rough shape. It was not damaged severly, it was just more cost effective to order a remanufactuered head with warranty vs the downtime required in rebuilding/restoring my original head.

I cleaned my block and pistons as best as possible if anyone needs pics I can arrange to have them uploaded(I'm pretty proud of how clean i got everything). I used carb cleaner and scott bright pads to clean the pistons, a gasket scraper to clean the old HG off the block surface, and shop towels/rags to wipe off any excess dirt/fluids from the cleaned surfaces. Oil and coolant were drained prior to engine dissassembly during the initial clean up I popped open the block coolant drain cock to allow any fluids going into the water channels to drain. the oil channels have not been cleaned up thoroughly so I am going to put a little bit of oil into the oil passages and let them drain out prior to installing the new(well remanufactured) head. I have ARP head bolts, no studs since this is an NA build(I couldn't find a valid point in using studs over bolts on this motor). So the biggest concern I have is that I am going to use a Graphite HG and lately all the reading from these forums has told me not to use an MHG if you do not resurface the block. Considering I am not pushing boost through this engine how serious of a problem would this be? I need this car to become of daily driver reliability and I am pretty confident with the amount of hours invested in cleaning everything thus far, I am a bit concerned now since most say not to use the MHG in my situation. Can anyone help me with a logical reason why this is not recommended?

Thanks in advance for any help fellas, I look forward to learning much more from this community.
 

bluedragon17

87 NA-T baby!!!
Sep 14, 2006
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ok im N/A and i have a MHG. the reason you dont wanna use one is because you need to have the head and block lapped and shaved to be COMPLETELY flat so that the hg doesnt leak. and if you want reliability then use the gasket you have now and torque the ARP's to 80 ft lbs and you should be fine with everything
 

ill Z

Back on the Grind
Mar 18, 2007
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Thank you, now I've read a lot of people using brake quieter on their MHG to help it seal. Did you do this on your MHG as well? I'm thinking about doing this since I did not have the block shaved/lapped.
 

Burntz

Sold the Supra
Apr 20, 2007
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If you are going to use a OEM HG, then use some copper spray on it. Hang it up on some wire or something, coat it, and let it become tacky, then carefully drop it onto your block, and dont mess up :)