6.5" speakers in your pre-91 doors

[Dan_Gyoba]

Okay, I just got my set of MB Quart 6.5" separates, and I'm going to make 'em fit these doors, for sure. I also got a set of Kicker SSMB6 6.5" subwoofers, which I may install instead, if I can get more than 0.3 ft^3 and the requisite mounting depth, and locate the components in kickpanels instead.

The plan is to make an enclosure for the speakers with as much air space as possible. It's easier to make the volume smaller than larger, after all.

The speaker face will sit facing the existing grille, and the little port grille for the factory 4" speakers. Maybe not ideal, but more than good enough. Maybe not if the door speakers were going to handle more than a couple hundred watts, but I'm personally not planning on more than 75W/channel for these.

Anyway, I figure that I can do this one of two ways. I can either make one set of enclosures, in place, so they don't come out, or I can make molds for them, in which case, I can make more than one set. I'll be working on these during April, so I would like to know if anyone else would like to have a set like this, if it's worth my while to make more than one set.

 

[CalsonicGTR]

I would be interested if you decided to do more than one set.

 

[Dan_Gyoba]

Well, we'll see. I'm going to start making the plugs for these this week, maybe a weekend project to get them going.

 

[sweetlikechutny]

heres what i did: I bought a set of 91+ door panels, and then i attempted to fiberglassed an enclosure off the old 4" enclosure and made a new face for them for the 6.5's. My fiberglassing sucks, if you are still planning to make more then 1 set of mould I would love to get in on this. Let me know.

 

[steven89]

i just bought the 91+ speaker box. =p have yet to put in the MB Quart components

 

[pbasil1]

Perhaps my build thread can give you some ideas.... I like the sounds of where you are going. I will soon be adding another mid to each door when i go active 3-way...

http://www.carforum.net/showthread.php?t=1699

 

[Kckazdude]

I too found a set of 91-92 pods. However they are getting harder to find. I really like the idea that pbasil had. That had to improve sound quality.

 

[ValgeKotkas]

I've done the pods too. Too bad I didn't take pics of the process nor the product itself, but only the last result.

Those are 6'' IIRC.

 

[Kckazdude]

^^Impressive. How does your door panel look with all of that mounted?

 

[ValgeKotkas]

They fitted there nicely. Lemme go get a pic. They don't touch the door panel. I like the pre91 door style, so I wanted it to stay as is.

oh, and as I see, there are different speakers in it now hmmm...

 

[Kckazdude]

Im jealous of it. Are those 91-92 door panels or did you mod the tweeter grille yourself?
Either way it looks damn good.

 

[annoyingrob]

Im jealous of it. Are those 91-92 door panels or did you mod the tweeter grille yourself?
Either way it looks damn good.

Those aren't 91-92 panels.

These are 91-92 panels

 

[Kckazdude]

Thanks. I havent seen 91-92 panels before so I had no reference.

 

[ValgeKotkas]

Tweeter grille? I thought it was a hole for the air moving in-out.
The metal on the panel is shaved a bit, but not much (no more room, as you see).
Tweeters were put on the triangle near the window, as you also see on the pic

Sadly, this setup doesn't have much bass... maybe I'd need some good sound deadening there, as it's mentioned in the posts above. Though I'll be adding a Kicker to the trunk anyway

 

[miekedmr]

is the back of the speaker sealed somehow? That'll really make a difference in bass because otherwise the backwave will find it's way out and cancel out the front wave most of the way.
In my tacoma I made custom speaker mounts for the stock location and used some heavy plastic to seal off the door cavity as best I could before laying the door panel back on it. By no means is that as good as having a solid sealed enclosure but the bass from the doors is actually pretty strong and I think the plastic helped.

 

[ValgeKotkas]

Well only thing that's behind those speakers is the door itself I don't see much room for putting some enclosure there.

 

[Dan_Gyoba]

An enclosure is the point of what I'm building, which will make a huge difference in bass response.

 

[annoyingrob]

is the back of the speaker sealed somehow?

If you're using stock, unmolested 91+ mounts, IIRC, it's either completely sealed, or very easy to seal them. It's been so long since I looked at them.

Makes me wish I didn't hack them apart. I could have sold them for some decent change.

 

[Dan_Gyoba]

The stockers are completely open at the back. You could seal over the back of the enclosure easily enough, however then it would be extremely small airspace, which doesn't do a lot of good. I have a set that I was going to use that way, but I decided that it wasn't worthwhile.

 

[CalsonicGTR]

Has there been any progress on these?