John Kerry loves the military.....

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I feel sorry for the people in this thread that don't even understand the electoral college. I mean jesus fuck, they musta been huffin glue all sophmore year of high school.


I don't think they teach that stuff anymore. I graduated in 95, I think I learned about it in 6th grade. But in general I don't think they teach anything about our own government anymore.
 

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LOL, priceless....

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So you think it's John Kerry insulting the troops....

Army funding short under budget plan

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ARMY_BUDGET?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Marines plan to recall some battalions

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2582907

White House said to back drugmakers in dispute with DOD on Tricare

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=37992&archive=true

Move to cut Tricare drug costs fails in Congress

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=39907&archive=true

Military personnel to see pay rise 2.2 percent in 2007

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=39462&archive=true

Harvey: Troops could be kept past their duty expirations

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=39467&archive=true

Sparks fly at hearing for Reserve GI Bill

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=39571&archive=true

NOTE: Effective January 17, 2003, VA suspended NEW enrollment of veterans assigned to Priority Group 8 (VA's lowest priority group consisting of higher income veterans). If you are a veteran enrolling for the first time on or after January 17, 2003, and your income exceeds the current year income threshold, you are not eligible for enrollment at this time. Veterans enrolled in Priority Group 8 on or before January 16, 2003, will remain enrolled and continue to be eligible for the full-range of VA health care benefits.

http://www.va.gov/healtheligibility/eligibility/DetermineEligibility.asp

So... all of this nonsense about John Kerry insulting the troops is so much baloney. Tell me who's REALLY insulting the troops and LOVES the military.

Greg
 
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That's beautiful man!:icon_bigg Several officers, and senior NCO's in that shot too. Probably a couple of Master's degree's amongst them. Kerry couldn't have fucked up any worse! Actually better!!!:icon_razz I am now confident that the GOP will hang on to control.
God bless those troops, and all the rest!::salute:: USA rocks!!!:bigthumb: I love this country!:love:
 

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Greg55_99 said:
it's John Kerry insulting the troops....



[So... John Kerry insulting the troops so much. Tell me who's REALLY insulting the troops and the military. John Kerry! And Greg

Okay, okay! geez! We got it!:aigo: It's John kerry insulting the troops! What did you expect?!:icon_surp He's ashamed to be an American! :eek: (Typical leftist!):icon_razz
 

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Greg55_99 said:
So you think it's John Kerry insulting the troops....
Yes, I do. He inferred that I'm too stupid to do anything else with my life. Forget that I've owned a business for almost 9 years now....

What's your point?
 

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Supra Blues said:
I don't think they teach that stuff anymore. I graduated in 95, I think I learned about it in 6th grade. But in general I don't think they teach anything about our own government anymore.

In Florida there's this class you have to take to graduate high school...I can't remember what's it's called though... I think it was... "Government" ;)
 

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So... all of this nonsense about John Kerry insulting the troops is so much baloney. Tell me who's REALLY insulting the troops and LOVES the military.

Greg
Johhn Kerry's opinion of the intellect of soldiers is not analogous to budget or decisisons that politicians such as Kerry and W decide how to use the military. Nice effort though.
 

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Yes, I do. He inferred that I'm too stupid to do anything else with my life. Forget that I've owned a business for almost 9 years now....

What's your point?

Let me tell you what my "point" is. You slam John Kerry, a decorated combat veteran, because he "inferred" that troops in Iraq are stupid. That has been "inferred" as his opinion (not the truth). Yet when presented with evidence that the Bush administration has:

-Underfunded the troops and support equipment
-Overextended troop rotations
-Not provided proper body armour to troops
-Not provided inexepensive medical drugs to military families in favor of lobbyists
-Increased out of pocket medical expenses to military families
-Given troops the SMALLEST pay raise in years
-Not given Reservists and Guardsmen their fair share of benefits
-Decreased Veterans benefits for Iraq War Veterans

After all of this, instead of slamming the Bush Administration for what they have DONE to the troops, you slam John Kerry... who has done NOTHING to the troops.

Why is your sense of outrage directed at Kerry?

Greg
 

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Greg55_99 said:
-Not provided inexepensive medical drugs to military families in favor of lobbyists
-Increased out of pocket medical expenses to military families
-Given troops the SMALLEST pay raise in years

Umm, Greg, military families get FREE drugs. You can't get more inexpensive than that. Not to mention that the medical is FREE too. Research is a good thing, it keeps you from looking stupid.

Also, There are two pay raises scheduled for '07, so your claim is factually false. Further, more has been spent on family housing & programs in the last 5 years than has in the last 30 years. Again, research.....
 

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Greg55_99 said:
Let me tell you what my "point" is. You slam John Kerry, a decorated combat veteran, because he "inferred" that troops in Iraq are stupid. That has been "inferred" as his opinion (not the truth). Yet when presented with evidence that the Bush administration has:

-Underfunded the troops and support equipment
-Overextended troop rotations
-Not provided proper body armour to troops
-Not provided inexepensive medical drugs to military families in favor of lobbyists
-Increased out of pocket medical expenses to military families
-Given troops the SMALLEST pay raise in years
-Not given Reservists and Guardsmen their fair share of benefits
-Decreased Veterans benefits for Iraq War Veterans

After all of this, instead of slamming the Bush Administration for what they have DONE to the troops, you slam John Kerry... who has done NOTHING to the troops.

Why is your sense of outrage directed at Kerry?

Greg

I think we have discounted most if not all of these "issues" in another thread as well.
 

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rakkasan said:
Umm, Greg, military families get FREE drugs. You can't get more inexpensive than that. Not to mention that the medical is FREE too. Research is a good thing, it keeps you from looking stupid.

Also, There are two pay raises scheduled for '07, so your claim is factually false. Further, more has been spent on family housing & programs in the last 5 years than has in the last 30 years. Again, research.....

Yes, it pays to do your homework:

http://www.tricare.osd.mil/tricarecost.cfm

As for the pay raise, that doesn't cover everyone.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=39735&archive=true

In January, when most servicemembers will receive a 2.2 percent basic pay raise, their smallest in 12 years, America’s 36 four-star generals and admirals, and its 125 lieutenant generals and vice admirals, will see basic pay climb by 8.7 percent, or $1,100 a month.

On April 1, warrant officers and some middle-grade enlisted will get a second basic pay raise, the latest in series of adjustments to keep the pay table competitive. Warrant officers raises will range from .8 percent to 8.3 percent, depending on grade and years of service. Enlisted grades E-5 with 8 or more years of service, and E-6 and E-7 grades with 12 years or more service will see April raises of 1.2 percent to 2.5 percent.

Greg
 

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Greg55_99 said:
Yes, it pays to do your homework:

http://www.tricare.osd.mil/tricarecost.cfm

As for the pay raise, that doesn't cover everyone.

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=39735&archive=true

In January, when most servicemembers will receive a 2.2 percent basic pay raise, their smallest in 12 years, America’s 36 four-star generals and admirals, and its 125 lieutenant generals and vice admirals, will see basic pay climb by 8.7 percent, or $1,100 a month.

On April 1, warrant officers and some middle-grade enlisted will get a second basic pay raise, the latest in series of adjustments to keep the pay table competitive. Warrant officers raises will range from .8 percent to 8.3 percent, depending on grade and years of service. Enlisted grades E-5 with 8 or more years of service, and E-6 and E-7 grades with 12 years or more service will see April raises of 1.2 percent to 2.5 percent.

Greg

You're right, research is key to everything. By researching, you would have found out that Tricare Extra & Standard are options to the family member, whereas Prime is available to all, free of charge.

So, when are you going to post the information for the second planned pay raise in '07?

Keep throwing the slow balls across the plate, I'll knock them out of the park every time.