Targa Weather Stripping Replacement Issues (w/pics)

[88targarose]

First, let's get these out in the open

http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/TSRM/bo/BO_47.html

1) Interior targa trim bevel.
2) Tar-line holding the weather stripping to the assembly.
3) Where the Weather Stripping is tar'd or Siliconed into the track.

A while back, I went around and replaced ALL the weather stripping for the cabin area. First off, Wow, what a difference that made. It was simple, relatively inexpensive, and VERY VERY effective. However, I got to the Targa weather stripping pieces and became stumped. Unbeknownst to me the whole weatherstrip/bevel/rain gutter assembly is ONE PIECE.

The weather stripping (itself) I'm replacing is part number: 62383C & 62384C. I can't seem to find a good diagram of that part of the Targa.

Well, I pulled the thing off, then started to remove the old stripping, only to find it tarred and siliconed into the track. I destroyed the old seal trying to get it out. However, now my problem is this. As you can see, it seems damn near impossible to get all the remains out of the track.

So, how did others replace these seals? Do I have to buy a whole new assembly and re-tar them? Or is there a better way I'm missing? How does this work?

I'm utterly confused, and looking at this thing, I really shouldn't be. However, I want an OEM Seal, and I don't feel I can get it with the stuff I have shown above. I've looked through old threads, and can't find an answer. So, anyone who's done this, I'd highly appreciate your input.
Thanks.

Apologies for cross posting across the various Supra sites
-James

 

[Suprastic]

Last year I bought used drip rails that had the same problem when I took the old seals out to replace with the new. Back then I decided to use my orifinal drip rails with the new seals, until the other day. Yesterday I started working at it and they cleaned up very good. Here is what I did:

-took a small utility knife cut along the groves a few times to break the urethane and rubber loose.

-take any thing like a metal pick that is bent in the end and strat scrapping the shit out of the groves. It should be relativley easy to get out since you loosed it with the knife.

-once as much of it is out as possible, I took coarse sand paper, folded it to fit in the groves, and started to sand away. This took out all the small shit still stuck in there.

-finally, take some gasket remover and put it along the inside of the groves, and work it with the same pick type tool you used in the first step, but with a terry towl over the end. This will give it a final clean and get anything else out.


It took me an hour and a bit to do jsut one drip rail, so just be patient and take you time. When you reseal them, lay down a bead of window urethane generously in the same spots you removed it from. Good luck

 

[Satan]

Mmmm.... I've done a few of these and NEVER put any weatherstripping (glue) between the seal and the rail. Just between the rail and the targa. You want to be able to pull that seal off, without Fing up and making it unusable.

I've had to replace a couple, because the previous owners tried to fix it this way. The water leaks between the rail and the targa. The seal, keeps out the obvious water, but is mostly for sealing to the top of the window (reducing air/wind noise).

And yeah... because someone else put all that goop behind the seal, you have to tear the seal to get it out... then using anything that fits, keep working away at removing all that's leftover stuck in there, like Suprastic said.

Do yourself a favor and try it without the goop betweenn the seal and the rail 1st. If you really think it'd be better to add it, you can easily do it later, since you've already gooped the more important part (between the rail and the targa).