Start help, Smoke help, Intercooler Piping Help

suprastroker88

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Start Problem.............

Ok I went to go start my 1986.5 NA-T this morning. The lights and everything came on but it wouldn't start. (low battery) Wouldn't even click. So I threw on some jumper cables and tried to jump it. Still wouldn't do nothing. After trying about 5 times, it hesitated but finally started. After it ran for awhile, it died, so I tried to start it again. It clicks and makes a rattle sound but it aint starting. Is this the starter, or could it be something else?

Smoke help.................

Once I got the car started, while it idled, it blew light grey or like blue smoke (cant really tell which color). When I revved it up a lil bit, it blue dark grey or black smoke. What could be the reason for this smoke?

Intercooler Piping help................

After the car died, I was looking at the engine and I just so happen to notice that a piece of the piping that goes from the turbo to the intercooler is missing. (this is how i got the car from the previous owner) Could this be a reason for the car dying or the smoking or both?

The car is stock besides a turbo timer and exhaust. What size intercooler piping should I buy? Is 2.5 in too big?
 

blk92suprat

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Any leak in the intake stream will cause irratic idle or the car to die.

In your case a huge leak hence the car dieing.

Go for 2.5 or 2.75 inch piping with an aftermarket intercooler.
 

suprastroker88

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blk92suprat;1087672 said:
Any leak in the intake stream will cause irratic idle or the car to die.

In your case a huge leak hence the car dieing.

Go for 2.5 or 2.75 inch piping with an aftermarket intercooler.


would the pipe leaking cost black smoke?
 

blk92suprat

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suprastroker88;1087728 said:
would the pipe leaking cost black smoke?

I believe you would be running rich due to the metered air escaping. One of the causes of black smoke is running too rich. Normally you can notice this at WOT because our cars normally run on the rich side.

If your talking about black smoke at idle then it might be from a different dilemma.
 

gaboonviper85

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suprastroker88;1087728 said:
would the pipe leaking cost black smoke?

absolutly!! Our cars run metered air..that aluminum thing just behind the air filter meters the air comeing in...if you have a hole behind the turbo then all that metered air blows out that hole so now the motor thinks is going to burn that much air so it gives the car extra fuel...but that air blowing out the hole never makes it to the motor so now the motor runs super friggin rich! Too much fuel burns black as coal.
 

suprastroker88

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blk92suprat;1087731 said:
I believe you would be running rich due to the metered air escaping. One of the causes of black smoke is running too rich. Normally you can notice this at WOT because our cars normally run on the rich side.

If your talking about black smoke at idle then it might be from a different dilemma.

It lets out light smoke at idle, so barely anything. But when I rev it a lil bit, it smoke dark grey to black
 

suprastroker88

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gaboonviper85;1087737 said:
absolutly!! Our cars run metered air..that aluminum thing just behind the air filter meters the air comeing in...if you have a hole behind the turbo then all that metered air blows out that hole so now the motor thinks is going to burn that much air so it gives the car extra fuel...but that air blowing out the hole never makes it to the motor so now the motor runs super friggin rich! Too much fuel burns black as coal.


Which reminds me now that youre talking about fuel.... I still have the NA fuel injectors. Is that bad since int converted to turbo? They are balanced and blueprinted though
 

gaboonviper85

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they should be fine for low boost...but I'd change them to Atleast factory turbo injectors (440)...fix your boost leak and get bigger injectors...once you do that post back your results.

And yes it shouldn't smock much at all at idle but once you rev past 2500rpm or so it should start to run pig rich.

Seriously get turbo injectors in asap..n/a injectors will run lean and blow the motor once you start boosting.