My turn to dance - Recommendations please

Aspec

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::bhg::

Yep. Another BHG thread. But I can't complain. I put 40k miles on my supra since I got it and I have no Idea how it was put together so she's been good to me.

I'm Looking for recommendations for machine shops in my area for when I send out the head/block. I'm hoping JDUB and some other locals can chime in with some experiences.

Thanks in advance.:1zhelp:
 

jdub

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So your gonna go with a MHG?

I had mine done at Frontier Machine shop long ago...thay did a good job, but are really too expensive. A friend of mine just had his done at a shop over in your neck of the woods....valve job and re-surface. I saw the head (helped install it)...it was very nice (met a HK Stopper spec) and a lot cheaper than I paid. Let me ping him and get back to ya.
 

Aspec

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jdub said:
So your gonna go with a MHG?

Maybe. I'm torn between that and OEM (w/ARP studs either way). I'm going to stay around 12psi and at most go to a upgraded ct-26. Either way I should probably get a valve job and re-work the head. She's never overheated but warpage is still probable.

jdub said:
I had mine done at Frontier Machine shop long ago...thay did a good job, but are really too expensive. A friend of mine just had his done at a shop over in your neck of the woods....valve job and re-surface. I saw the head (helped install it)...it was very nice (met a HK Stopper spec) and a lot cheaper than I paid. Let me ping him and get back to ya.

Thank you sir. I'll wait to hear from ya.
 

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jdub

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An OEM HG will hold boost easily to fuel cut....with an upgraded CT26, that is all you really need and it will not require a block deck re-surface. Assuming the block deck is flat of course. I would use ARP hardware (studs preferred) torqued to ARP spec (80 ft/lbs w/ moly) regardless of the HG you choose.

I would still have the head decked and a valve job done with new seals installed. You might as well. Here's some springs that are an upgrade from stock...cheap too:
http://www.mkiiitech.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=359

You can use the stock retainers...I'd let the machine shop install these. You def want to check the valve shim clearances before you put the head on the block.

If you plan on going with a turbo that can put out 20 psi +, you probably want to go with a MHG. Cometic is fine for most people, unless you are going to the big HP numbers...it's RA spec is the easiest to meet from the rest. If you go this route, realize you will have to do other mods to the motor to support this kind of boost. Planning on doing a re-build on the bottom end may be in order if you have a lot of miles on it...before you up the boost that is.

I'm still working on getting that machine shop number...talked to my buddy, the shop is actually out in Mesa. Cost was ~$450 for deck, valve job, valve assembly....not too bad considering he got it down to an RA of 25 ;)

You probably already know this...do not run the car. You likely have coolant in your oil...very bad for bearings. When you get this job done, change the oil/filter before you run it...SuperTech oil/filter from Wal-mart is fine...use 10W-30. Run this oil for 30 min or so and dump it. Change the oil/filter again...this time use a good oil and a Wix or PureOne filter. Take a look at the Oil section for my opinion on oils.
 

Aspec

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jdub said:
An OEM HG will hold boost easily to fuel cut....with an upgraded CT26, that is all you really need and it will not require a block deck re-surface. Assuming the block deck is flat of course. I would use ARP hardware (studs preferred) torqued to ARP spec (80 ft/lbs w/ moly) regardless of the HG you choose.

Roger.

jdub said:
I would still have the head decked and a valve job done with new seals installed. You might as well. Here's some springs that are an upgrade from stock...cheap too:
http://www.mkiiitech.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=359

My thoughts as well.

jdub said:
You def want to check the valve shim clearances before you put the head on the block.

Yay, no more Cummins diesel action.

jdub said:
I'm still working on getting that machine shop number...talked to my buddy, the shop is actually out in Mesa. Cost was ~$450 for deck, valve job, valve assembly....not too bad considering he got it down to an RA of 25 ;)

Sweet. Thanks for the effort... eww Mesa :biglaugh: (a reliable machine shop is probably worth the drive)

jdub said:
You probably already know this...do not run the car. You likely have coolant in your oil...very bad for bearings. When you get this job done, change the oil/filter before you run it...SuperTech oil/filter from Wal-mart is fine...use 10W-30. Run this oil for 30 min or so and dump it. Change the oil/filter again...this time use a good oil and a Wix or PureOne filter. Take a look at the Oil section for my opinion on oils.

Luckily I was idle at a stop sign when it let go and the evil sweet smelling cloud spewed forth from my tailpipe so she wasn't even under a load when it totally went.:x:
 
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Aspec

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jdub said:
You probably already know this...do not run the car. You likely have coolant in your oil...very bad for bearings. When you get this job done, change the oil/filter before you run it...SuperTech oil/filter from Wal-mart is fine...use 10W-30. Run this oil for 30 min or so and dump it. Change the oil/filter again...this time use a good oil and a Wix or PureOne filter. Take a look at the Oil section for my opinion on oils.

Speaking of which... Are there any boxes of 0w30 lime flavored Castrol Syntec left in the valley or did you squirrel them all away?:icon_bigg

I like Syntec so if that is not available you did say 10w40 was a decent alternative correct?
 

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LOL...I got very lucky on that one. 18 bottles of Green GC from the AZ on Grand Ave & Peoria ;)

That's the only AZ I hit over on your side of town...I bet ya can grab some from the other AZ's in the west valley. The Gold GC is very good too...don't pass it up. Just make sure it says "Made in Germany" on the back.

Otherwise, Red Line is an outstanding choice...Grp V ester based. It's actually better than the GC, just damn expensive. You could use the 10W-40 Red Line easily here...it's a bit thinner than most 10W-40 (ester's like that) and will flow well cold, but not as good as the 5W-30. Either grade would be a great choice.
 

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Aspec said:
Speaking of which... Are there any boxes of 0w30 lime flavored Castrol Syntec left in the valley or did you squirrel them all away?:icon_bigg


Why do I get a funny picture of John having his arms wrapped around 18 quarts of motor oil, hunkered down, looking this way and that frantically to make sure no one sees him hide his stash? LOL
 

Aspec

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starscream5000 said:
Why do I get a funny picture of John having his arms wrapped around 18 quarts of motor oil, hunkered down, looking this way and that frantically to make sure no one sees him hide his stash? LOL

LMAO