if i take out my afm what would i put to my accordian hose?a stocking?or what?my afm is fucked up..so il take it off for the meanwhile...will it throw a check engne or any code?
If i take out my afm?
- Thread starter noremacsupra
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Enough jokes. Why are you doing this? If you don't have any idea how to fix the car, why are you trying?
The worst advice I keep seeing is "do it yourself". Don't do it yourself unless you know what you are doing.
The worst advice I keep seeing is "do it yourself". Don't do it yourself unless you know what you are doing.
7MA61 said:
It might work without a volumetric measuring device, but the load is still calculated or measured somehow. Don't confuse the first guy.
Yea, we know. Obviously the 1st poster won't have recognized that and would think there is a way; and everyone who's telling him it won't run is just stupid.7MA61 said:
If you take out the afm (on a stock car) the car will start and run. But the moment you give it more gas it'll sputter and want to stall or it will stall.
JustAnotherVictim
Supramania Contributor
It shouldn't stay running. It should start, run, then die pretty quick without you having to touch anything.billspreston01 said:
JustAnotherVictim said:
jesus fucking christ this thread is a trainwreck.
people who dont know SHOULDNT POST!
FYI the car will idle quite nicely without the AFM plugged in but as the other guy said as soon as you give it gas itll die.
Nick M said:
Fixed.
If only people who were born with a knowledge of car repair could work on them, then there would be a whole lot of broken cars laying around. Ask questions, read the TSRM ahead of time, tackle the things that are within your abilities after reading and learning all you can. Then go fix your car. :icon_razz
Well, not exactly, they'll try to learn off of forums which... well, is a mistake, since so few people ACTUALLY know what they're talking about. As this thread has demonstrated.
i have an afm if you need one... i'm in the process of putting in a 2jz, so i shalnt be needing it
If you take off your AFM, you might as well find a different car to drive while you're waiting on another one. BTW, how do you know your AFM is what's giving you problems? And please, don't put a stocking anywhere near that engine 
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JustAnotherVictim
Supramania Contributor
I may have been mistaken by saying all the time, but you know that an unplugged afm can cause the car to die without doing anything. Hence the afm error caused by the ecu reading the metering from the afm incorrectly.lagged said:
If it isn't possible for that to happen ever as you're apparently hinting, please explain why it's listed in the tsrm as a possible cause of stalling?
A car not starting with the afm wouldn't be the first time it happened to me either on multiple vehicles. So as I said, all the time may have been incorrect but I am not completely wrong as you are suggesting.
http://tinyurl.com/3e4mod
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JAV, the ECU will enter Fail Safe without the AFM connected and will be driveable with care as long as you go easy on the pedal (the ECU uses IDL to substitute for the AFM). Mine idles fine and if I go easy on the gas I could drive it all day long. You'd be surprised at how well the engine runs without the AFM. Try it and see. If yours won't do it something is wrong. I get tired of repeating this: Like most EFI systems the Supra's ECU defaults to stored values when there is a problem. If EFI equipped cars stranded their owners every time a sensor failed they would be abominations of design.
Btw, this guy has many threads that show not only is he completely clueless but as lazy as they come. He even has a service manual but refuses to study it. I'm clueless as to why people keep responding to him. Trying to help this guy is a lost cause but ok, if it makes for entertaining reading...
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JAV, the ECU will enter Fail Safe without the AFM connected and will be driveable with care as long as you go easy on the pedal (the ECU uses IDL to substitute for the AFM). Mine idles fine and if I go easy on the gas I could drive it all day long. You'd be surprised at how well the engine runs without the AFM. Try it and see. If yours won't do it something is wrong. I get tired of repeating this: Like most EFI systems the Supra's ECU defaults to stored values when there is a problem. If EFI equipped cars stranded their owners every time a sensor failed they would be abominations of design.
Btw, this guy has many threads that show not only is he completely clueless but as lazy as they come. He even has a service manual but refuses to study it. I'm clueless as to why people keep responding to him. Trying to help this guy is a lost cause but ok, if it makes for entertaining reading...
JustAnotherVictim
Supramania Contributor
Thanks JJ for an actual explanation.
The inability to continue running or start is what I always recall happening whenever I had tried to start the car without the afm plugged in. Just personally I've never seen it stay running that way.
It would always fire up run for maybe <10 seconds then die. After the afm was hooked up it would run perfectly. I'll try running without it the next time I have a chance.
This part is what I was referring to.
The inability to continue running or start is what I always recall happening whenever I had tried to start the car without the afm plugged in. Just personally I've never seen it stay running that way.
It would always fire up run for maybe <10 seconds then die. After the afm was hooked up it would run perfectly. I'll try running without it the next time I have a chance.
