Flow paths of the PS pump resevoir

[IwantMKIII]

So i'm going to be swapping out my PS resevoir, cause, well, it sucks to mount else where and its pretty ugly. But first i need to know which ports are supply vs. return for PS fluid because one of the inputs on the new resevoir is above where the fluid levels will be.

 

[Piratetip]

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=SR&P=36

 

[jetjock]

Well, where do you think the suction (supply) port in a hydraulic system is likely to be? Would it make sense for it to be halfway up the tank? Which port goes to the pump? Which is below the tank's screen?

 

[jdub]

^^^ LOL!

 

[jetjock]

It wasn't my intent to bust the guy's balls but come on. Maybe it's me but the question reveals a lack of motivation or ability to either reason something simple out or to just look it up using readily available documentation. In other words he's projecting the appearance of being either lazy or stupid. I'm pretty sure that's not how he wants to come across on here.

 

[jdub]

Exactly...well said

 

[IwantMKIII]

Well, where do you think the suction (supply) port in a hydraulic system is likely to be? Would it make sense for it to be halfway up the tank? Which port goes to the pump? Which is below the tank's screen?

you never fail to be an ass about your comments, but you do answer the questions and thoroughly for the most part and ill give you that much. tbo at this point i wouldn't expect much else from you. Of course it would logically work that way, but since when do cars always follow logic/reasoning. Simply verifying is all as it is not in the TSRM.

 

[ValgeKotkas]

Errmmm... so you saying the pump could pump in air or what?
The whole car is based on physics and shit, so that makes it logical too
It'd be better to ask, where to put the extra fluidfilter? To the coming or going hose?

 

[Piratetip]

I disagree JJ is one of the best members here at SM.
The problem is that too many people come here and post their questions expecting answers when no effort was put fourth by them.
It really gets old after awhile, and as you can see these are the types of responses you get.

Yes cars do follow logic and reasoning, do a little research and you will understand everything you wanted to know.

BTW, it is in the TSRM, I POSTED A LINK!!!!!!
Here it is again, in case you missed it the first time.
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=SR&P=36

 

[jdub]

you never fail to be an ass about your comments, but you do answer the questions and thoroughly for the most part and ill give you that much. tbo at this point i wouldn't expect much else from you. Of course it would logically work that way, but since when do cars always follow logic/reasoning. Simply verifying is all as it is not in the TSRM.

Look...Jet's not being an ass, he's pointing out exactly how the question comes across. Why do you think I laughed at it? Or am I an ass too? Why not instead post how you think it works and ask for a confirmation and/or any detail you might have missed. The way you put it displays a total lack of effort...at least in formulating the question at minimum.

I have asked JJ the same type questions, most recently on the PCV and EGR systems and how to adapt to a FFIM. He didn't spoon feed it to me either, but added the detail that allowed me to answer my own question (the same as he did for you). Now I have a very good idea of exactly how it works and what I need to do. I also posted a bonehead answer to another question here on adapting a Ford TPS to "talk" to the ECU concerning IDL. I had it dead backwards because I misinterpreted the wiring diagram, and JJ pointed it out. I was wrong...no point in rationalizing it...it would be a good idea for you to grow a thicker skin.

BTW - The systems in this car always follows a very straight forward logic/reasoning. Open your eyes and you just might see it.

 

[IwantMKIII]

I disagree JJ is one of the best members here at SM.
The problem is that too many people come here and post their questions expecting answers when no effort was put fourth by them.
It really gets old after awhile, and as you can see these are the types of responses you get.

Yes cars do follow logic and reasoning, do a little research and you will understand everything you wanted to know.

BTW, it is in the TSRM, I POSTED A LINK!!!!!!
Here it is again, in case you missed it the first time.
http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=SR&P=36

Never said he wasn't. In fact he is one of the most knowledgable people here, BUT because of that he comes off arrogant at times when answering questions he feels are so obvious to him, but not necessarily to others (and im not referring to just this post, it happens all the time and you know it, but like i said, at this point i expect it)


Yeah, i got that obviously, but it doesn't help answer my question. I asked regaurding the resevoir not the actual flow of the PS system. I already browsed through the TSRM, it wasn't there.

Also, i never said cars don't follow logic or reason, they do....to an extent, until build time; not to mention I said ALWAYS follow logic/reasoning. Things get changed in ways that don't always make sense/work out as intended...its just the way it is.

 

[IwantMKIII]

Look...Jet's not being an ass, he's pointing out exactly how the question comes across. Why do you think I laughed at it? Or am I an ass too? Why not instead post how you think it works and ask for a confirmation and/or any detail you might have missed. The way you put it displays a total lack of effort...at least in formulating the question at minimum.

I have asked JJ the same type questions, most recently on the PCV and EGR systems and how to adapt to a FFIM. He didn't spoon feed it to me either, but added the detail that allowed me to answer my own question. Now I have a very good idea of exactly how it works and what I need to do. I also posted a bonehead answer to another question here on adapting a Ford TPS to "talk" to the ECU concerning IDL. I had it dead backwards because I misinterpreted the wiring diagram, and JJ pointed it out. I was wrong...no point in rationalizing it...it would be a good idea for you to grow a thicker skin.

BTW - The systems in this car almost always follows a very straight forward logic/reasoning. Open your eyes and you just might see it.

i never said cars don't follow logic or reason, they do....to an extent, until build time (most of the time); not to mention I said ALWAYS follow logic/reasoning. Things get changed in ways that don't always make sense/work out as intended...its just the way it is.

Yes i COULD'VE posted how i thought it went, so sorry i didn't :nono: . The fact is i thought to do that but didn't want somebody to come in here and read my post and answer the question based on whehter he THINKS my answer is right or not, in other words i didn't want to influence and answers from those who don't actually know for sure. All i wanted was verfication to a rather simple, straight forward question. Is that really so much to ask???

 

[jdub]

I'll demo:

"I looked at the Power Steering system and it appears the return flow to the reservoir is from the line to the top port. Thinking about the system flow, it makes sense the feed to the pump is on the bottom of the reservoir. Is my logic on this sound? Anything I can miss here if I want to relocate the reservoir or replace it with an aftermarket one?"

At least (posting it this way), you've thought about it. And you can bet if someone posts a wrong answer, it will be corrected.

So your saying a motor (designed by Mechanical Engineers) doesn't follow logic and physics? I can understand how someone might not see it, but I can promise you it does...always

 

[Jeff Lange]

Question answered, both by JetJock and by the TSRM. There's a diagram showing what hose connects to what ports.

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