doing a head gasket on a budget and a time frame

[boost fiend]

well, the head gasket kit got orderd today. its a fel pro kit. yeah, i know, yoda would be better, but 500 vs 225?

new yoda bolts get orderd tomorrow!!

im starting on sat hopefully! lets hope i open it up and dont fine anything to busticated. and last words of wisdom from anyone?

 

[blkt72]

Stock HG, new stock headbolts, 90 ft-lbs of torque.

I did the above, except I milled the head and torqued to 105 ft-lbs. Held up fine to an upgraded (-60) CT 26 at 21-22 PSI.

 

[blkt72]

well, the head gasket kit got orderd today. its a fel pro kit. yeah, i know, yoda would be better, but 500 vs 225?

new yoda bolts get orderd tomorrow!!

im starting on sat hopefully! lets hope i open it up and dont fine anything to busticated. and last words of wisdom from anyone?

FEL PRO IS the stock Toyota gasket. Look at country of origin on the gasket list. HG is made in Japan and is/was the only gasket made in Japan.

 

[boost fiend]

ok, the fel pro vs yoda is a given.

again MDC, thanks for your mini write up.


and what part of i dont have the time/money/extra car to have the head and deck milled is not understandable? next winter it gets a fresh MACHINED rebuild.

sorry if i sound short, im pushing my luck with lots of things latley.

 

[boost fiend]

yeah!!! head gasket kit is in! its so purdy i dont know if i wanna put it in. lol

yoda head bolts come to me tomorrow at the shop!!!!!!

im so ready to do this i coulld shit several gold bricks!!!!

now i just hope nothing is ultra broke when i take it apart. (crosses fingers and toes)

 

[iwannadie]

id like to hear how the gasket job goes. i think my n/a blew, i might end up trying to do the same that your doing....

i want to dump the turbo motor in, but dam right before the holidays i cant afford to lol

 

[boost fiend]

to quote yoda, the gte and ge heads share the same head bolts.

and advanced auto has the kit for 225 with the tax included. yoda wants damn near 500.

iirc, there was a write up here, but im a weardo and do things oddly. ill post a small quick write up for people doing it this way very soon.

 

[bigaaron]

Stock HG, new stock headbolts, 90 ft-lbs of torque.

I did the above, except I milled the head and torqued to 105 ft-lbs. Held up fine to an upgraded (-60) CT 26 at 21-22 PSI.

You torqued the stock bolts to 105ft/lbs!?!?!?!?

I refuse to admit this whole thread even exists. :runaway:

 

[blkt72]

You torqued the stock bolts to 105ft/lbs!?!?!?!?

I refuse to admit this whole thread even exists. :runaway:

Actually I did but it was a mistake. Meant to stop at 95 on the first bolt of the 4th pass and my foot slipped and I torqued to 105. I decided to torque the rest of them to that value rather than back the first one off. I never recommend that high because it frankly scared the shit out of me when I was tightening them. I had 2 of the bolts stretch and completely release torque until I torqued them to 105 again and they held. Like I said, it was an accident, I don't recommend but I did do it and it worked fine for me.

 

[CRE]

Hylomar Blue.... Is Hylomar Aerosol the same or is it a different beast all together? If the Blue isn't available in a spray how do you ensure a nice, thin, and above all, even coat?

Anyone know of a shop in CO which carries it?

 

[boost fiend]

from what i hear farm and fleet carrys it.
i did price it online last night and damn. $25 bucks for a 3 oz tube? kinda out there in my opinion.

as far as head bolt troque, i pland to go in the 80 pound range. and objections/opinions?

 

[CRE]

Here's a decent price... except for their handling fee. Can't win them all. This is the right stuff?

http://www.dougherbert.com/hylomarspray5oz-p-10844.html?cPath=320_342

 

[jdub]

as far as head bolt troque, i pland to go in the 80 pound range. and objections/opinions?

I'd go 75 ft/lbs and no higher...ARP recommends 75 ft/lbs (w/ moly) on their head bolts when used on an aluminum head. They back off the 85 ft/lbs normally specified in this case due to the heat expansion rate of aluminum. Toyota head bolts should be no different...other than the strength of the bolt.

Use moly on the Toyota bolts and chase the threads in the head. I torque in 10-15 ft/lb increments.

 

[CRE]

I just read all of MDC's walk through. One thought, if you do get an earplug stuck in one of the threaded holes try a straightened fish hook to pull it out... it'll probably spare you a lot of unnecessary hassle.

How deep are the threaded holes anyway?

 

[boost fiend]

i am using stock head bolts. new ones. -

stupid question time......

if your were to order a new head bolt kit, dont you think they would come with washers?

kit they sent me is part # 90110-12002. 14 brand spankin new bolts, but no washers?

wtf?????

i do plan to chase every thread hole. im not a fool. like i said earlier, im just not used to dohc engines. im used to sbc v8's and hei distributors. hand me a carb and ill show you a few tricks. hand me injectors and ill show you how to install them the right way. time and money are my only issues at the time.

and i am using a fel-pro/stock hg. any words on using a sealer like copper seal or disk brake quiet? ive used the brake quiet before on abc v8's with no issue. 7m is a lil diffrent.

and trust me, if my fiancee were not expecting my kid, id do it the right way!!


oh, yeah, did i mention im a soon to be daddy!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jdub]

i do plan to chase every thread hole. im not a fool.

??? Pardon me ??? Good luck with your HG job. Hope it holds.

 

[tookwik4u89]

I use permatex copper, never had a problem, they have it at advanced auto.

 

[cypher02xd]

i probably know what this is, just not the terminolgy but whats "chasing a thread"?

 

[boost fiend]

"whats chasing a thread" = drunken motor head talking about running a tap through every threaded hole in the area.

ok, after work today i finally got to taking the engine apart. tried folling mdc's and every other walkthrought to the T! news is both good and maybe a lil bad, but i am botherd by a few things.

1. the oil lines on the bottom of the turbo wouldnt come loose after unbolting and trying to pry free(and yes, i was very gentle with it.)

2. threootle body in the gasket kit didnt match the one on there already. the hole looked like it was intended for a geo metro. lil trimming and cleaning and gasket maker and all is better.

3. while unpluggin the injectors they turned a lil bit. im kinda worried there. my kit came with 6 o rings, but it dont say if its for injectors or what. to add to that, i dont think i quite remeber the order for the injectors.

anyone know the injector order/color order?

and first thing it back to assembly............. yeah.

 

[boost fiend]

another stupid question is if anyone knows where the vac diag is hideing at? searched for it here and the tsrm i downloaded a while ago.

just wanna double check everything.