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Pr0ject_Supra

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7thousandpiecesMGTE;1340885 said:
this is the future, has been for some time.....Big Oil has been the only thing in the way.

That and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCZ4ayioCU

Lithium + oxygen + a little heat = deathtrap
If it's raining you don't even need the heat. Don't forget it's a chemical fire and lithium + water will fuel itself. With the number of cells needed to run a daily driven car there isn't a very good way to hide them all safely if a wreck occurs.
 

7thousandpiecesMGTE

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Pr0ject_Supra;1341100 said:
That and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCZ4ayioCU

Lithium + oxygen + a little heat = deathtrap
If it's raining you don't even need the heat. Don't forget it's a chemical fire and lithium + water will fuel itself. With the number of cells needed to run a daily driven car there isn't a very good way to hide them all safely if a wreck occurs.

Please tell me you are joking. You cannot seriously be stating it is more dangerous to have a batteries as a means to fuel the car than GASOLINE. Replace lithium in your equation with GASOLINE and the outcome is the same, in fact more deadly in the event of a crash. They were cooking this laptop, it didn’t just explode for no reason. Put a spark/flame/heat to your gas tank and the same type of reaction will occur.

Cars already contain batteries and a fire accelerant this is not an excuse to ditch foreign oil dependency.
 

Pr0ject_Supra

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Gasoline needs a spark to ignite. Most wrecks although violent don't create a spark, hence most fender benders don't turn into raging inferno's. All a lithium cell needs is to be cracked. The battery will already be warm from the redox reaction supplying the car with power and a crack will expose the lithium to oxygen and start a CHEMICAL fire. One that cannot be put out with water. In fact search youtube for a lithium water reaction, it's very exothermic.

Current cars do have a battery, same redox reaction concept but different elements being used.
 

suprarx7nut

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Props to fun alternatives to gas. Still doesn't solve the air quality issue since the power required to charge the batteries still generally comes from coal...

Wind energy and solar have great potentials.

Now if only making the batteries didn't cause acid rain and horrible, horrible pollution maybe then I could get fully behind electric cars. ;)
 

mecevans

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Pr0ject_Supra;1341929 said:
Gasoline needs a spark to ignite. Most wrecks although violent don't create a spark, hence most fender benders don't turn into raging inferno's. All a lithium cell needs is to be cracked. The battery will already be warm from the redox reaction supplying the car with power and a crack will expose the lithium to oxygen and start a CHEMICAL fire. One that cannot be put out with water. In fact search youtube for a lithium water reaction, it's very exothermic.

Current cars do have a battery, same redox reaction concept but different elements being used.

hes not using lithium polymer batteries. he's using A123's nanophosphate li-ion batteries. they do not ignite, even when completely shorted out, and overcharged by many C's. why do you think they are so popular in consumer gadgets? and besides a manufacturing defect, how often have you heard of fires? ive seen 120mph RC planes smack into concrete and never seen a flame.

suprarx7nut;1342064 said:
Props to fun alternatives to gas. Still doesn't solve the air quality issue since the power required to charge the batteries still generally comes from coal...

Wind energy and solar have great potentials.

Now if only making the batteries didn't cause acid rain and horrible, horrible pollution maybe then I could get fully behind electric cars. ;)

i believe Honda's new hybrid has solar panels on the roof. what about that car that went across the US only on solar? the tech is there.