I've noticed that we've got a few members on the forum here - some new, some not - that have the 1G-GTEU, and I've come across a few posts about it. I would probably be too late to jump into any of those discussions, so I thought a new one here might be helpful. I just copy/pasted my reply that I startd from a different post for here, hence the quotes. I also thought we 1G owners need a little more communication and collaberation. If you make it to the end of my novel here, feel free to add to this thread with your experiences and headaches with this motor!
Here's my ten cents.
(What? It's a long post, so it's worth more than 2 cents, I think:biglaugh
Yeah, it's TT, and yes parts are hard to find. But...(will elaborate in a minute)
Definitely. When the motor goes, unless you have a real attachment to it, go JZ... (will elaborate)
The 1G is a great little motor. It sounds awesome at WOT, and pulls well, considering it's a 2.0L I6 and has to haul the lard-ass Supra around. It gets decent economy off the turbos, and I can still pass in fifth gear, without having to drop down. Mind you, I think my rear end is a 4.3, so that helps. Boost is fairly quick, 3000rpm or so, and I can still get sideways, with passengers. I'm enjoying the car, and this winter will be focusing on tying down the suspension and brakes. The valve seals are a little leaky, but so far the motor is still strong. I'll worry about motor work after the rest of my foundation is good. All the power in the world is no good if you can't put it down or slow it down.
It's like trying to do barrel rolls in a 747.
Look at it this way, it's roughly the same output as the NA 7M guys, but we at least have the option of turning up the boost a little, and playing with the ecu and someother gizmo. I'll find the link, and post it up for you. I've read about guys pulling another 30-40 hp with nothing more than a little time and a used boost controller. I've read higher than that, but it didn't look reliable.
Mine does the same thing. I sound like a dump truck! It only happens when it's hot, both the motor, and ambient air temp outside (25degC+). I bag the shee-yit out of this motor on the backroads, and she loves boost and high-revs. My peak output is around 5800rpm (according to my butt-o-meter), but she'll still pull to 7800, and I've had it up to 8300rpm before I started to crap my pants:aigo:. I can pull these kinds of stunts in the morning, or late evening, and don't usually hear it. Thinking about it now, this noise - for me - is prevalent in traffic and around-town-speeds. Once I start to wind it out on the highway or backroads, it quiets down. And during this all, I can't really notice a drop in power (little as it is:sarcasm
I'm going somewhere with all this prattle... I haven't checked shaft play in my twins yet, but I honestly suspect that our dump-truck whining noises might be an exhaust leak somewhere.
Now, I promised an elaboration on parts and motor... Parts is a bitch. Spark plugs, and oil filters are the same at the 7M-GTE. If you search the ToyMods forum, you will find a thread titled "Toyota's Interchangeable Odditites". It's a list of - you guessed it - interchangeable parts from other Toyota motors that will work on the 1G. Many of them will require verification on your part if you ever need it, and depending on the work, you might just want a 1JZ...
1G - 210hp, 205 torques
1JZ - 287hp,
1G - parts are a bitch (Australia, or Japan, if you can read kanji)
1JZ - not nearly as much (some good vendors right on this very forum)
1G - 400hp is possible, for much money and time
1JZ - 400 hp is expected, for not much money and time, and for far less money than the 1G
1G - $1900 ish
1JZ - $2000 ish
1G - not much respect (from the Aussies anyways), but rare and neat lookin'
1JZ - common place and not rare anymore (but lots of tuner know-how and experience, now.)
Again, I love my little 2.0L, but want a JZ when the time comes. Honestly, parts availability is a big part of why the motor is hopefully coming out next winter. But... the 1G is sorta-common swap in the old-skool Celica's, or most Toyota's older and lighter than the Supra. Hell there's even a guy somewhere (or so Der Interwebz tell me) that put one in a Miata!
Look at the 1G like a summer fling with that spicy little teenager. It'll be fun for a while, and it'll be something different, but when the time comes to move on you'll appreciate a more mature girl in the long run.
Here's my ten cents.
(What? It's a long post, so it's worth more than 2 cents, I think:biglaugh
gaboonviper85;1357008 said:
Yeah, it's TT, and yes parts are hard to find. But...(will elaborate in a minute)
steveo;1357013 said:
Definitely. When the motor goes, unless you have a real attachment to it, go JZ... (will elaborate)
2quickk;1357617 said:
The 1G is a great little motor. It sounds awesome at WOT, and pulls well, considering it's a 2.0L I6 and has to haul the lard-ass Supra around. It gets decent economy off the turbos, and I can still pass in fifth gear, without having to drop down. Mind you, I think my rear end is a 4.3, so that helps. Boost is fairly quick, 3000rpm or so, and I can still get sideways, with passengers. I'm enjoying the car, and this winter will be focusing on tying down the suspension and brakes. The valve seals are a little leaky, but so far the motor is still strong. I'll worry about motor work after the rest of my foundation is good. All the power in the world is no good if you can't put it down or slow it down.
It's like trying to do barrel rolls in a 747.
Look at it this way, it's roughly the same output as the NA 7M guys, but we at least have the option of turning up the boost a little, and playing with the ecu and someother gizmo. I'll find the link, and post it up for you. I've read about guys pulling another 30-40 hp with nothing more than a little time and a used boost controller. I've read higher than that, but it didn't look reliable.
steveo;1358494 said:
Mine does the same thing. I sound like a dump truck! It only happens when it's hot, both the motor, and ambient air temp outside (25degC+). I bag the shee-yit out of this motor on the backroads, and she loves boost and high-revs. My peak output is around 5800rpm (according to my butt-o-meter), but she'll still pull to 7800, and I've had it up to 8300rpm before I started to crap my pants:aigo:. I can pull these kinds of stunts in the morning, or late evening, and don't usually hear it. Thinking about it now, this noise - for me - is prevalent in traffic and around-town-speeds. Once I start to wind it out on the highway or backroads, it quiets down. And during this all, I can't really notice a drop in power (little as it is:sarcasm
I'm going somewhere with all this prattle... I haven't checked shaft play in my twins yet, but I honestly suspect that our dump-truck whining noises might be an exhaust leak somewhere.
Now, I promised an elaboration on parts and motor... Parts is a bitch. Spark plugs, and oil filters are the same at the 7M-GTE. If you search the ToyMods forum, you will find a thread titled "Toyota's Interchangeable Odditites". It's a list of - you guessed it - interchangeable parts from other Toyota motors that will work on the 1G. Many of them will require verification on your part if you ever need it, and depending on the work, you might just want a 1JZ...
1G - 210hp, 205 torques
1JZ - 287hp,
1G - parts are a bitch (Australia, or Japan, if you can read kanji)
1JZ - not nearly as much (some good vendors right on this very forum)
1G - 400hp is possible, for much money and time
1JZ - 400 hp is expected, for not much money and time, and for far less money than the 1G
1G - $1900 ish
1JZ - $2000 ish
1G - not much respect (from the Aussies anyways), but rare and neat lookin'
1JZ - common place and not rare anymore (but lots of tuner know-how and experience, now.)
Again, I love my little 2.0L, but want a JZ when the time comes. Honestly, parts availability is a big part of why the motor is hopefully coming out next winter. But... the 1G is sorta-common swap in the old-skool Celica's, or most Toyota's older and lighter than the Supra. Hell there's even a guy somewhere (or so Der Interwebz tell me) that put one in a Miata!
Look at the 1G like a summer fling with that spicy little teenager. It'll be fun for a while, and it'll be something different, but when the time comes to move on you'll appreciate a more mature girl in the long run.
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