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Yea, Premium = 20gig HD, Wireless Controller, Forza/ultimate alliance = 349 Arcade = 256mb memory card, Wireless Controller, and no Forza = 279 Its cheaper to just get the Arcade and by Forza, than to buy the premium.

Cool yea I ended buying a 360 arcade version, it comes with a memory card, so I can get on live. I didnt need a harddrive, I've got 2teras of space on my PC. So buy the arcade version, comes with 256mb memory card, and wireless controller, then forza is pretty cheap.

Well I leave at the end of jan. to go to germany, so I wouldnt need a year, I can afford $7 but I'll see what I can do with the silver.

I'm in, you just need Silver membership to play forza 2 right? I havent played online, since I got my xbox last sunday.

so that peice is plastic and not some spaceage material? Thats going to look like ass over time.

i would think after a while that any material is going to start to yellow or gain a non-clear color

Alright! info, finnally, impressive times I must say.

Still waiting for info, 10.8, and he says fastest is 11.8-12sec. 10.8 is a massive drop from 12sec. INFO or I call BS

info?

MOOORRRREEEEEE Pics this kicks ass

LMAO. That would be great.

wow those are both clean ass cars. Nice find sorry for your troubles but welcome to the community err...family

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dido So yes I was wrong but dido is a word. :biglaugh:

Still, even then, your still talking about a 150whp advantage. 15whp isnt exactly a small number.

Ive said that to so many people its not funny, people think its like controlling a civic with 85Hp.

The 2jz Mark III swap is still quite uncommon, but the whole 7ms blowing up thing, thats just from people not properly maintaning them, it can happen to any engine.

LOL, The second I clicked on this , I knew for some reason everyone was going to post BIC DDP, if that doesnt say something about it....