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Rust will darken it for one thing! However, i'm assuming you've got antifreeze in it? If so, green will turn a bit more orange if there's rust. Red will probably be harder to tell. You could always invest in the old test strips that tell you if there's exhaust gasses in your coolant...

Hey Jake, can I come too? -Spipedong: Sorry for the shameless hijack!

Overbored a 5M eh? I'll remember not to try that then...

So GPA - from the pics, the manifold looks like all equal length pipes. Was that the idea or was it do get the turbo into a position that would fix in your engine bay? EDIT: Just read back a few posts and realised I'd missed some of the discussion about the equal length goal. Sorry 'bout...

LOL @ "Fab Youl Ass" Always did have a way with words!

Heh, that's me! Using mezzy.com to get to the site so I can post this. This might help you admin types a bit (and if you need anything else, just let me know). Here is a trace from my machine at work (took the first few hops out to protect security) and one from Optus' own we traceroute...