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  1. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Hello All I have done a bit of road testing today and this is what I have ended up with. Exhaust cam advanced +4.5 cam deg. Inlet cam advanced + 4.5 cam deg. Results. Acceptable idle with air con off. Good idle with air con on. Performance Excellent performance from low rpm...
  2. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Hi Shredder I have just advanced the exhaust cam to +4.5 cam degrees or +9 crank degrees. The car started instantly and idled perfectly. I will go for a test run later and let you know how it goes. I think these cams have a little too much duration for a fairly stock 7mge and when I reduce...
  3. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    The exhaust 50 thou point is 8 deg BTDC not 8 deg ATDC. The 10 thou exhaust closing point I measured earlier today is 20 ATDC.
  4. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Here is a very short update. I now have the gauge etc set up for degreeing the cams. So far I have checked the exhaust cam only. With the cams set up on the centre drive pin and lined straight up then the timing events occur as per the timing card at 40 thou valve lift with 10 thou...
  5. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    On this video they are degreeing a set of Cr0wer cams in a supra 2jz. In this case they set the timing up at 50 thou valve lift and not 50 thou lobe lift. I emailed crower and they said use lobe lift. I guess its a case of suck it and see. Video is very informative except the repeated use of...
  6. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    When you find the 50thou lift points do you have to subtract the tappet clearance?? So if your tappet clearance is 8 thou should you degree it at 42 thou valve lift or 50 thou valve lift??
  7. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    IJ. Any thoughts on why it seems I need to run heaps of advance on both intake and exhaust to get these things running well?? 3 cam degrees on the exhaust and 4.5 cam degrees on the intake. I'm going to do a full cam degreeing over the next week as I have borrowed the necessary gear off a...
  8. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Progress update I have refiited the cresssida intake to allow easier access to cams etc. I removed the exhaust cam drive wheel and advanced it by 3 cam degrees. Started off with the inlet cam set at zero. Checked static ignition advance and I had about 13 deg BTDC at 700rpm with the te1...
  9. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Update I have checked my TDC mark on the front crank pulley and it appears to be correct. I have made a simple check of the valve timing events and they are also as per the little timing card. I have compared the BC exhaust cam with both a stock NA cam and a stock Turbo cam and the...
  10. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Just thinking out load here but I should be able to check the intake opening and exhaust closing events without a fancy degree wheel since they both occur so close to top dead centre on the non firing cycle. Atleast according to the little timing chart anyway. I have accurately set all the...
  11. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    OK will do. Unfortunately I must now go to work ARGGGGHHH. I will try and accuratley degree the cam over the weekend. BTW did you have a look at the little timing chart?? Does it give you any feeling for the cam timing. It seems to be pretty mild to me.
  12. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Thanks Ian My motor has had atleast 2 head shaves and one decking of the block when I rebuilt it earlier this year. These were all absolute minimum though at my request. Shaving head or block or gasket thickness does give cam retard. It also has just an oem style ACL head gasket with ARP...
  13. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Why the XXXX wouldn't they do it from the factory. If toyota can do it then Brian Crower should be able to. They did supply a little timing card. A few pics below
  14. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    It seems to me that degreeing of the cams is required. The fact that the ignition timing was retarded so much and that the idle is so bad suggests to me that there is a lot of static retard on the exhaust cam. I assumed the dowel pin holes would be set up so that if you use the middle pin...
  15. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    I don't know why it was moved by the moderator and I have no plans to go turbo. The moderator did send me a very polite PM saying it was being moved and I'm not that fussed about it. Oh and I have only one 5 bolt adjustable cam gear and one factory vernier gear. I think I will try reduced...
  16. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    100% agreed. Can I ask where in Aus you are roughly??
  17. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Yes it was moved by the moderator and yes it is a GE (non turbo) Here is an update. I filed out the slot a little and now I have enough static advance for general driving. Idle is crap and it regularly stalls. I might have to tweak the cam timing a little as there must be too much...
  18. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    Done this and double checked a few times now. I also think the drive gear is out of phase. I think of all these cams that have been sold nearly all are still sitting in boxes and have not been tried.
  19. amichie

    Brian Crower 7M cams and ignition timing issue

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey I have just fitted a set of brian crower stage 2 cams to my 7MGE and now I cant get enough static ignition advance before I hit the end of the adjustment range. Max advance at idle I can get is about 5 deg...
  20. amichie

    7M-GE Dyno record

    What is the highest power recorded from an NA 7m-ge?? All the ones on 7Mpower are turbos. Anybody broken about 120 rwkw??