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IJ.

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Clip: lol'd ;)

Forgot to add the SDL can operate as a standalone display/data logger and hookup to all the stock sensors so you don't need a full MoTeC ECU.

It also has 4x Outputs so can be used to run accessories.
 

figgie

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IJ.;1202689 said:
And that I want to drop 5K on a glorified solid state relay ;)


Well I was thinking....

turn signals = 2 inputs (One each side)
Hazards SHOULD activate both sides so piggy backing on the aforementioned 2 inputs above.. I think.
Brakes = 1 input
high beam = 1 input.

Going to feed that into the MoTeC or the SDL?
 

Txsupra

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Im working on a cluster right now and I have a question about the speedo. Will the OEM cable work on a Autometer mechanical gauge? It says it takes a 1/16th cable. Without takeing the plastic off the cable I can only assume that it is. Or is it a metric size? This is what i got so far. Its a start.

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lagged

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i dont think there is any reason to keep the stock cable. it should be trivial to get an electronic speedometer to work with a stock toyota sender, which mounts at the exact same place the cable driven gear is located.
 

Txsupra

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IJ.;1203069 said:
The tip on the stock cable is 2.6mm (just measured mine) so 100 thou, 1/16 is 62 thou so no go.

The cable itself from memory was 3mm.

Are the cables the same for all years? Models:Celica, celica/supra, supra? do you know of an adapter? Im going to look, if I find one I will let everyone know.
 

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Txsupra;1203187 said:
Are the cables the same for all years? Models:Celica, celica/supra, supra? do you know of an adapter? Im going to look, if I find one I will let everyone know.

Call autometer, and they'll direct you to an outsourced specialist. The adapter was quoted to me at $99.

Also, you have to have a way to feed a 0-5v signal from the speedo to the TCCS, if your still using it, or you will loose cruise control, and throw a CEL. TCCS also uses the speedo signal for fuel enrichment in some scenarios also. According to JJ the electronic Autometers can do this, look at thier Install instructions.

Here is a PM i saved from my conversation with Jetjock

Stock speed sensor is a reed switch for mechanical dashes. It's a photo coupler in digital dashes. Both are located integral to the speedometer. Both generate 4 pulse per rev of the cable. Loss of it will cause a code. They can be replaced by any device that provides a compatible 5 volt pulse train. From what I gathered by reading the data sheet the output of that electronic speedo can be calibrated to do that.

The signals' mnemonic is SPD. SPD is used by:

1) Cruise control. It's the main input for this system.

2) TEMS, for preventing anti-dive when the brake pedal is pressed unless the car is going over appx 40 mph, and to enable high speed firm when at or above appx 80 mph.

3) TCCS:

a) For determining decel fuel cut and resumuption.

b) For air fuel ratio correction during engine transitions.

c) For turning on the MIL in the presence of certain codes, including a loss of itself.

d) For idle speed control.

e) For some automatic transmission functions.

SPD has varying degrees of impact depending on the function. For example in air fuel correction during transitions it's minor while impact on idle speed control is more pronounced.

The ABS system is autonomous, therefore it doesn't use SPD.
 

IJ.

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Cruise Control uses a 14Hz @ 60 mph frequency to operate NOT a 0>5v, the Cruise box may be outputting a 0>5v signal to the TCCS I have NFI as I don't have a stock ECU in my car or access to a car to test.
 

NashMan

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what ever happened to that guy

and ps i never sean his dash finshed i was kidna cures on how the train wreak whould turn out like


92nsx;1203179 said:
What ever you do, do not make it like HommerSimpson's dash. For those who remember it, what abortion that was.
 

92nsx

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NashMan;1203415 said:
what ever happened to that guy

and ps i never sean his dash finshed i was kidna cures on how the train wreak whould turn out like

He got pissed off at JJ (I think) and others and said he's not coming back, after taking a weeks vacation, lol. But I see he logs in from time to time. I have his "new" photobucket in my PM let me see if I can find it.

EDIT: Bling Bling: here's hommer, lol. Not sure if it still works so someone will need to open it up since I cant see photobucket here at work:(
http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...pradash022.jpg
 

Txsupra

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I no longer have any of the OEM wireing. The only thing that is still factory is the wires in the doors. There for I dont think I need to get an electric conversion box. Or do I? Guess not cause for a hundie I can get an adapter for the cable. All good info, thanks
 

Txsupra

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I found an Autometer that uses a .104 cable. That should work just fine. For anyone who needs a mechanical speedo to use with the factory cable, ultra lite.