I've had my dealings with DEQ. I had a 1989 Honda CRX that I was trying to get tags on. As I tried different things to get it to pass, I found out just how dumb the idea of DEQ was. And from what I can tell, DEQ doesn't even test for the emissions that would actually hurt anything. DEQ can't even prove that the emissions they test for in cars hurts the envirenment! They just... think it will. :nono:
I'm only talking about the machines they use here in Oregon. The way the machines work, it can not simulate real world driving conditions. Not only that, but torque plays a huge roll in how the machines read. If you have a V8, it has torque, and can push the rollers easily without WOT. A smaller 4cyl or 3cyl however is pushed at WOT from 800rpm to 3000rpm.
Here's how I know these machines do not work. Someone I knew swapped out a 1996 1.6L SOHC Honda Civic motor, computer, wiring and exhaust into an older CRX. Even the guage cluster was put in the CRX. (it was pretty trick) He took this car to DEQ, and because they said it was a 1989 Honda, they put it on the rollers. In Oregon, they drive your car, you can't drive your own car. It failed horribly. He then drove it around the parking lot, and put it in the computer test bay, where they plug into your ECU to take the test. It passed with flying colors. He then drove it back around, onto the rollers, and if Failed again, horribly.
The only thing DEQ does in Oregon, is force people to get rid of their smaller gas efficiant cars in favor of a new car that doesn't have to go on the rollers. Sure, cars pass the roller test all the time... Some cars even fail one day, and pass the next day with nothing done to them. So tell me, how is DEQ working if it's so random?
I'm only talking about the machines they use here in Oregon. The way the machines work, it can not simulate real world driving conditions. Not only that, but torque plays a huge roll in how the machines read. If you have a V8, it has torque, and can push the rollers easily without WOT. A smaller 4cyl or 3cyl however is pushed at WOT from 800rpm to 3000rpm.
Here's how I know these machines do not work. Someone I knew swapped out a 1996 1.6L SOHC Honda Civic motor, computer, wiring and exhaust into an older CRX. Even the guage cluster was put in the CRX. (it was pretty trick) He took this car to DEQ, and because they said it was a 1989 Honda, they put it on the rollers. In Oregon, they drive your car, you can't drive your own car. It failed horribly. He then drove it around the parking lot, and put it in the computer test bay, where they plug into your ECU to take the test. It passed with flying colors. He then drove it back around, onto the rollers, and if Failed again, horribly.
The only thing DEQ does in Oregon, is force people to get rid of their smaller gas efficiant cars in favor of a new car that doesn't have to go on the rollers. Sure, cars pass the roller test all the time... Some cars even fail one day, and pass the next day with nothing done to them. So tell me, how is DEQ working if it's so random?
