Any Macintosh Admins Out There?

huntin5L

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Question for any network admins out there, hopefully there are some :) I have any issue that maybe one of you might be able to help out on. When a user opens up a quark document on a 2000 server and goes to save it. It disappears. I can see it still on my 2000 file server, but not on the mapped drive to it on any mac machine. I have no idea why, i even disabled symantec on both the mac machines and the 2000 server itself, because i heard that could cause issues. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Bob.
 

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The invisible quark files are a know issue with OSX connections to Windows Server 2000/2004 using SMB. This is caused by sessions to the Windows server not closing, leaving the Windows server to cache the file as being open. Apple is aware of this bug, and has been for a couple of years. No fix has been forthcoming.

Rebooting the Windows server will clear the cache, and report the files as being closed. It seems that over time, depending on how busy your server is, the problem gets worse, so it also seems to be a Windows caching problem, which is not anything new...

I've heard it suggested that the product PC MacLAN will fix the problem, but I have no personal experience with it. We just don't run any Mac's anymore.
 

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Thanks for the reply, funny thing is that we use AFP to connect to the file server, when i use SMB it works fine and saves fine, go figure. But, when i connect via SMB Most files such as Quark Documents, EPS images don't show up with the right file type. They show up as Unix files for some odd reason. When i add .QXD or QXP to the end of a quark document it then shows the correct file type. The way we connect is by going to the hard drive-Network-PFW MAC SERVERS(AppleTalk Zone) then connect to the file server and all file types show up correctly and open correctly but do not save correctly. Now when i enter the server that way through Network i connect to the server so i see my files, i keep that window up, then i open up an SMB connection to that same server and put that on the right side of my screen. I decided to recopy the folder from the regular way we connect to the SMB share and the files show up correctly through the SMB share. I have to rename the folder though when making a copy then deleting the orginal folder since i don't want to have duplicates on the same shared drive. The only thing is when i do this, we are no longer able to see the right file types when connecting through network-PFW MAC SHARES. So im hesitant on doing this because A: This is gonna be a lot of work to transfer all of this B: Is it gonna stay working, but from my testing it works and saving issues are fixed through SMB. Any ideas on that novel i just wrote? It is confusing, because it is hard to explain, but i hope my thinking is on. I also contacted quark and they blamed the macintosh for the problems and told me to download a utility that show hidden files, i tried that and now it made the .DSStore files visible, which is a big no no, because i know one of these users will end up deleting one of these files and if deleted they will screw up the files stored on the server and i don't want to take that risk. Also, i forgot to mention, NT4 server that we upgraded from didn't experience these issues and i have no idea why.
 
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Most all UNIX flavors (including Linux, BSD, etc...) use the Network File System (NFS) protocol to share files and folders on the network. You can use the Server for NFS component in Windows Services for UNIX to share Windows file system resources to UNIX and Linux (including OSX) clients by using NFS, which includes full support for NFS v3. You can use Server for NFS to make interoperability and migration in a mixed environment easier.

Edit: Also, if Server for NFS is installed on a server that is not a domain controller, you must also install the Server for NFS Authentication module on the local computer.

Also, there are commercial solutions out there to make it easier: http://www.ssc-corp.com/nfs/
 

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if i were having the problem described, i would continue to use smb for authorization (in windows i am unfamiliar with this, im a unix only shop...) and use NFS for data.