fact
noun
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5. Law . Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence.
VS.
o·pin·ion
noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Law . the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
It cracks me up when people try to state that their opinion is "right" and there's no disputing them. Can we not, as a collective whole, determine the difference between fact and opinion? That's sad if so.
In my own OPINION, because I haven't determined any facts :naughty:, a majority of the reason the MKIII community suffer such a black eye is induced by us. People state stuff as fact, when it is nothing more than an uneducated opinion, and the rest of the world takes it as gospel. Further, new inductees into MKIII ownership who are here to learn about MKIII's might stumble across some complete BS, take it as gospel and severely hamper what they have set out to do.
One question I have is what drives someone to so vehemently push opinion instead of seeking the facts? I guess there are several reasons, but none of them make any sense to me. One Hypothesis I have is that they are trying to earn respect, yet (again) my opinion, it's counter-productive to what they're trying to do. For instance, not many here can deny that guys like IJ, Jeff Lange, Aaron, Mike, Dave, Sheaff, et al are highly respected guys because they have developed a deep knowledge of our beloved MKIII's and they tend to share their knowledge. Jetjock isn't high on my friends list (I'm sure I'm not on his either), yet I respect the hell out of him because he knows the electrical and HVAC system better than anyone I know.
Contrary, when people state opinion as fact, is it not easy to see? When it is noticed, does it bolster ones credibility?
Sorry for the rant, but I view Supramania's collective ability of separating fact from opinion as the one item separates Supramania from the rest of the cesspool Supra centric forums.
noun
1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.
2. something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.
3. a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.
4. something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.
5. Law . Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence.
VS.
o·pin·ion
noun
1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.
3. the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion.
4. Law . the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.
5. a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.
It cracks me up when people try to state that their opinion is "right" and there's no disputing them. Can we not, as a collective whole, determine the difference between fact and opinion? That's sad if so.
In my own OPINION, because I haven't determined any facts :naughty:, a majority of the reason the MKIII community suffer such a black eye is induced by us. People state stuff as fact, when it is nothing more than an uneducated opinion, and the rest of the world takes it as gospel. Further, new inductees into MKIII ownership who are here to learn about MKIII's might stumble across some complete BS, take it as gospel and severely hamper what they have set out to do.
One question I have is what drives someone to so vehemently push opinion instead of seeking the facts? I guess there are several reasons, but none of them make any sense to me. One Hypothesis I have is that they are trying to earn respect, yet (again) my opinion, it's counter-productive to what they're trying to do. For instance, not many here can deny that guys like IJ, Jeff Lange, Aaron, Mike, Dave, Sheaff, et al are highly respected guys because they have developed a deep knowledge of our beloved MKIII's and they tend to share their knowledge. Jetjock isn't high on my friends list (I'm sure I'm not on his either), yet I respect the hell out of him because he knows the electrical and HVAC system better than anyone I know.
Contrary, when people state opinion as fact, is it not easy to see? When it is noticed, does it bolster ones credibility?
Sorry for the rant, but I view Supramania's collective ability of separating fact from opinion as the one item separates Supramania from the rest of the cesspool Supra centric forums.
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