R154 vs. W58

[Shadow]

I don't know a whole lot about our transmissions. I'm sure most of you already know the answer to these questions...

What is the difference between the R154 and the W58? Which one is better? Where do they come from?

I ask because there have been a few new threads started to include my own about the R154's strength and I'ts bugging me not really knowing the difference between the R154 and the W58.

I thought that the R154 came off of the 1J motor and the W58 came off of the 7M. Is this correct?

 

[IJ.]

58 shifts nicer but is MUCH weaker in general than the 154.

 

[BorHor]

w58's come from 7m NA supras mk3, 2j NA mk4 and also the 2j sc300

 

[H-Dogg]

Does anyone know if the drive shaft for the R154 is any different than the one used with the W58?

 

[IJ.]

Different

 

[SupraMario]

58 shifts nicer but is MUCH weaker in general than the 154.

AKA, 58 is for DD, and the 154 is more for fun.

 

[Shadow]

Well I'm glad I have an R154! So as it stands, the R154 is much better. Cool. I feel enlightened.

 

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

Yes the R154 comes with the 1JZ but its kinda rickety when shifting the only downside.

 

[IJ.]

LMAO @ "Rickety"

 

[Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE]

Me too its so true couldnt have found a better word for it!

I think that is what the (R) in R154 stands for...

rick·et·y(rk-t)
adj. rick·et·i·er, rick·et·i·est
1. Likely to break or fall apart; shaky.
2. Feeble with age; infirm.
3. Of, having, or resembling rickets

 

[drjonez]

http://www.4cefed.com/w58vsr154/w58vsr154.html

 

[The Reaper]

Me too its so true couldnt have found a better word for it!

I think that is what the (R) in R154 stands for...

rick·et·y(rk-t)
adj. rick·et·i·er, rick·et·i·est
1. Likely to break or fall apart; shaky.
2. Feeble with age; infirm.
3. Of, having, or resembling rickets

oh so true and the 154 stands for the number of times you'll have to try to put it in reverse or 1st gear and have it not go in gear in a course of a month

 

[AF1JZ]

I'm actually enjoying my R154. I have the marlin crawler shifter seat and socket and it make a huge difference. I'd have to agree it's for more aggresive driving compared to the W58. But, it is very tight shifting and goes into gear great. I'm also using the Redline tranny fluid.

 

[SupraMario]

Yes the R154 comes with the 1JZ but its kinda rickety when shifting the only downside.

how is it rickety? I've heard that word only used when I was watching a western movie, and they had wagons involved.

 

[Nick M]

I thought that the R154 came off of the 1J motor and the W58 came off of the 7M. Is this correct?

If that it is what the "Ricers are us" manual states, then yes.

 

[Spaniard]

Solstice R154 FTW here!

 

[Justin727]

Wonders if the Solstice R154 thrust washers hold up better then the supra's hmmmmm....

 

[IJ.]

I'd "guess" they're the same sintered crap and would suffer the same fate on a high impact launch.

 

[mattjk]

russ m. put down over 600rwhp to his w58, until he switched over to a powerglide. i guess they are good for a couple of 1/4 mile passes.

 

[OneJSupra]

58 shifts nicer but is MUCH weaker in general than the 154.

why is that? why does the w58 shifts nicer and the r154 does not? just want to know for my better understanding.