NA-T supra on the Mustang dyno 237HP 319TQ

Devin LeBlanc

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Just got back from the dyno this time a mustang dyno and here are the results.. However I didn't have the torque converter locked so don't know if that played a role in it or not but going back tomorrow to do more testing...

Here are the graphs.. Does everything look okay as far as the HP and TQ? It seems like the TQ just drops off A lot in the top end compared to most

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flyjum

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Are your cams wore down?
What exhaust and elbow?
Maybe the dyno operator messed up the correction values.
Was this in in 3-4th gear (3rd auto 4th 5 speed)?
I dont think its because the converter.

320tq at 2200 rpm
then
less then 220 at 5500?

Does not seem right.

How does the car pull does it fall off hard after 3000 rpm?
 

Devin LeBlanc

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Car pulls hard period.. My cams are not worn down at all.. Think it may have been something with the dyno.. Going back later this week hopefully to re dyno it. I also retarded both intake and exhaust cams 1 tooth which equates to 15 degree's.. I felt it just by driving top end power picked up some.. We'll see how it goes. Its stock elbow and down-pipe but the catalytic converter was cut out.. It was in 3rd gear
 

flyjum

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Maybe mess around with it like retard only exhaust to get more overlap.(Might not help with a boosted car)
If its pulling hard to redline then the graph is off.
Stock DP could be why your psi is dropping.
It should still have a flatter curve i would think.
Here is a good read on it.

http://www.celicasupra.com/forums/showthread.php?56174-cam-timing-and-advantages

Simple cam tuning rules for NATURALLY ASPIRATED engines:
Advancing both cams => more low-RPM power, less high-RPM power
Retarding both cams => more high-RPM power, less low-RPM power
Less overlap => more low-RPM power, less high-RPM power
More overlap => more high-RPM power, less low-RPM power

In a naturally aspirated engine, the extra overlap is called "scavenging". Scavenging is using the out-flowing exhaust to help draw in the next intake charge (partially causing lumpy idle).

Simple cam tuning rules for BOOSTED engines:
Advance intake and exhaust => more low-RPM power, less high-RPM power
Retard intake and exhaust => more high-RPM power, less low-RPM power
Less overlap => lower EGTs, faster turbo spool, less fuel
More overlap => higher EGTs, slower turbo spool, more fuel

Boosted engines don’t like overlap. The incoming cold air and fuel cools down the outgoing exhaust charge, condensing the exhaust gasses. This is VERY counter-productive in a turbo application since the engine needs no help from scavenging to fill the cylinder. I've heard this being called "turbo chill".

Mess around with it maybe your engine would like a bit more overlap maybe not.