Harness Bar Pics

[supraguru05]

So 4pt harness no good because you will slide out but what is stopping us from sliding out all car seatbelts since since nothing is retaining us underneath anyways.

My opinion is that proper 4pt harness will retain you better then stock seatbelt will. As for the titan motorsports bar i was thinking of buying it but now it sounds like it's more like a titan death bar if you get in a accident. So i'll look into the bars design more thoroughly and see whats best for my safety.

a three point harness as standard in cars allows your right shoulder to go forward which prevents your from being sent under the belts. 4 points worn properly can minimize the risk of submarining however there is still the possibility. 4 points do reduce chest loads in impacts but I would prefer to spend the extra twenty bucks to have the 5th harness

anyone looking at installing a bar or a cage should not use stock seats with anything other than stock belts. also if you are installing a harness please read this below

http://www.schrothracing.com/sdocs/2009_Competition_Instructions.pdf

safety is a really big pet peeve of mine. I know some but not enough about the subject and try whenever i can to read up on the newest technology and information.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

Amen Kyle. Also, when installing belts, DO NOT BOLT YOUR SHOULDER HARNESSES TO THE FLOOR! The tabs must be vertical, not FLAT.

http://www.crowenterprizes.com/Pages/Install.html

 

[northwestsupra]

what about the tabs for the belts that are like the flat ones but with a bend in them.

like this but with a 45 degree. if used on the stock 3 point side mounts it sits vertical

 

[northwestsupra]

IJ its hard to make the pictures out. but looks like a bad crash to me

 

[IJ.]

They're thumbnailed Blondie, click to expand

 

[northwestsupra]

i did expand. just dont get what im looking for i guess lol. lots going on there, only thing i saw wrong was the steering wheel on the wrong side of the car hair is dark brown btw

 

[IJ.]

Bunch more pics in my pics thread.
(but they say blondes have more fun)

 

[northwestsupra]

i know its a little off subject but i know IJ would know the answer. how bout targa bars? what thickness u think would be good enough for that. same? and im also doing the rear sub frame support while im at it. same thickness's?

i ask because im doing a metal run when i get the welder from adam. so i just wanna know if i should just get loads of the 4130

 

[IJ.]

i know its a little off subject but i know IJ would know the answer. how bout targa bars? what thickness u think would be good enough for that. same? and im also doing the rear sub frame support while im at it. same thickness's?

i ask because im doing a metal run when i get the welder from adam. so i just wanna know if i should just get loads of the 4130

Personally I wouldn't use 4130 I'm not a good enough welder to NOT destroy it, what do you mean by "targa bars"??

 

[northwestsupra]

almost 90% of your life is on the threads and you never came across targa bars. oh this is my chance to say it. use the search button haha

 

[IJ.]

almost 90% of your life is on the threads and you never came across targa bars. oh this is my chance to say it. use the search button haha

I know what they are just wondering why you'd make them from 4130 is all?

Thought you might be thinking they're going to be a major structural component.

 

[terror]

his seat snapped, no bueno

 

[northwestsupra]

im just asking what they should go bout being made of, thickness wise. im not all knowing when it comes to strengths of metals. types. i just know what can and cant be welded lol.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32695&d=1258051529

 

[IJ.]

im just asking what they should go bout being made of, thickness wise. im not all knowing when it comes to strengths of metals. types. i just know what can and cant be welded lol.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=32695&d=1258051529

Looking at that design you could get away with just about anything, they're in compression and tension, there's no torsional component to them so there's no need for them to be ultra strong.

 

[northwestsupra]

and i dont know if its a dumb question or not "you know me as a blond as of the moment anyway", but i remember reading alot on strut bars but triangle shaped ones. like what the mustangs use quite often. is there any benifit to having them. i guess stops strut tower side to side and back and forward movement? lookin at my engine i see a turbo being an issue. and also ic pipes.

 

[northwestsupra]

Looking at that design you could get away with just about anything, they're in compression and tension, there's no torsional component to them so there's no need for them to be ultra strong.

well there are also the X shape design to. i think those looked more solid personally and in theroy would deal with twisting of the body like going over a speed bump sideways or driving over the criminals body who tried to steal the car.

 

[IJ.]

Might be an idea to start a thread for these questions so you're not thread jacking the current one.

 

[northwestsupra]

yeaaa i guess i could if i really wanted to. lol huh well looks like i got a plan of starting at least, just got to do the measuring to see how much steel im going to need

 

[Supra28]

I know the Titan Harness Bar isn't recommened by some on here, but would it be okay if I had bucket seats with the five point harness with everything properly installed?

 

[toyzforme]

I guess if all you were doing was autocross meets then why couldn't you just attach the harness to the rear strut bar? That would be the only time I would be wearing the harness. During the daily drives I would just use the stock seat belts, besides I think it is illegal here in SC to be wearing harnesses on the street.