10k yikes. Over twice the amount needed.
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Ebay Projector upgrade kits?
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jrot;1661772 said:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html
Silverstars are:
- Overpriced
- Still a sealed beam
- Still a sub par DOT housing
- Blue coating is stupid as it limits lighting
Cheap "blue" bulbs are even worse: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/bad/bad.html
Here's info on the DOT vs E-code: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html
Neodeuccio;1661784 said:
Correct, you have to make them. Considering the interest in this thread I might start doing them myself, but there WILL be a markup for my work...
Smashey;1661788 said:
Terrible. They're low beam H7 projectors with cheap chinese rebased bulbs. They're not designed for HID's, they're low beam only, and they won't last.
Anything that requires to be done CORRECTLY will require money.
with that said, if the HID bulb mounts are ANYTHING except DS1/DS2/DS3, then it is a SHIT retrofit. End of story.
with that said, if the HID bulb mounts are ANYTHING except DS1/DS2/DS3, then it is a SHIT retrofit. End of story.
well poodles i agree that the price is way too high...thoug i had the cheap ebay 9006 convert kit or whatever on my car when i bought it it sucked so went with a factory bulb and it was about the same then went with the silverstar sealed beam and it was a major improvement....and i think the slight blue tint that the silverstars have on their capsules is just to clean the yellow from the light itself and it works....if it does cut out on light output it makes the light cleaner and more useful from my use so far....i agree that a true HID would be the best option for a functional upgrade but the silverstar is good for a regular factory type drop in stock bulb for those who dont want to fab or spend the cash or what ever....they are far from junk as a straight replacement bulb....now im off to go read those links you posted....
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poodles these are great links loots of really great info here.....i think he is speaking more to the "cool blue" lights that i see more than the silverstars but is deffinatly good and informative reading...those links should be sticky"ed" someplace.
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poodles these are great links loots of really great info here.....i think he is speaking more to the "cool blue" lights that i see more than the silverstars but is deffinatly good and informative reading...those links should be sticky"ed" someplace.
jrot;1662140 said:
Take them to heart. Halogen lights don't output much blue light, so putting a blue coating on the bulbs cuts output, period. Plus, blue is one of the harder colors for our eyes to see, and we lose definition looking at it. In fact, the "yellow" look of most bulbs is better, just like yellow tinted shooters or driving glasses.
It's a big scam.
yes what hes saying makes a lot of sense...but all i know is i see better clearer and farther with my sealed beam silverstars than i did with standard sylvania bulbs...my halogens i had in my old accord were much brighter and clearer with the sivlerstars also...maybe not scientificly better but to my eye it is....i would really like to get the correct HID kit from above mentioned website....will have to be further down the road.
I can't say for sure, but sylvania may have different housings for silverstars than their normal sealed beams.
the blue is very minimal..ill see if i can snap a pic though im not sure it will translate well...
Not talking about the blue, as the blue is a confirmed myth... Hell, the silverstars could just be using higher wattage bulbs (which isn't exactly good on your wiring).
It's too bad Sylvania stopped making the Xenarc auxiliary low beam HID kits.... those would be the ideal solution. They fit right where the stock fogs do and work like low beam HID's (they had a cutoff and proper reflector design). They were even DOT approved... AND they were only like $400. They are discontinued though. No idea why. Maybe too many idiots mounted them aimed too high.
Hella makes HID driving lights, but I don't think they have a cutoff... and they're like $500+ a set.
They also sell low beam and high beam HID projector units for about $400 PER UNIT (yeah, $1600 a set!). For just the projectors... no bulbs or ballasts (as far as it says on their site). They would be perfect for making a set of flush mounts for a MKIII. If you can figure out how to grow gold in your yard.
Hella makes HID driving lights, but I don't think they have a cutoff... and they're like $500+ a set.
They also sell low beam and high beam HID projector units for about $400 PER UNIT (yeah, $1600 a set!). For just the projectors... no bulbs or ballasts (as far as it says on their site). They would be perfect for making a set of flush mounts for a MKIII. If you can figure out how to grow gold in your yard.
What to do is make sure you buy the HID's from an american buyer!
I did this and it works really well! I bought some Ebay H4 "projector" headlights. buy a good HID kit not from ebay. I also did my fog lights in HID's with the same color. to be honnest all you need to do is aim your headlights down a little and it doesnt cause the super bad glare that you have seen on other cars. I have driven past my supra with these and it is no worse than driving past a Mercedes with HID's. ID say go for it!
These look lots more blue in the picture than they really are. they are 10,000K
left is just your typical halogen lights and the right are the HID's
I did this and it works really well! I bought some Ebay H4 "projector" headlights. buy a good HID kit not from ebay. I also did my fog lights in HID's with the same color. to be honnest all you need to do is aim your headlights down a little and it doesnt cause the super bad glare that you have seen on other cars. I have driven past my supra with these and it is no worse than driving past a Mercedes with HID's. ID say go for it!
These look lots more blue in the picture than they really are. they are 10,000K
left is just your typical halogen lights and the right are the HID's
Mkiii supra;1662264 said:What to do is make sure you buy the HID's from an american buyer!
I did this and it works really well! I bought some Ebay H4 "projector" headlights. buy a good HID kit not from ebay. I also did my fog lights in HID's with the same color. to be honnest all you need to do is aim your headlights down a little and it doesnt cause the super bad glare that you have seen on other cars. I have driven past my supra with these and it is no worse than driving past a Mercedes with HID's. ID say go for it!
These look lots more blue in the picture than they really are. they are 10,000K
left is just your typical halogen lights and the right are the HID's
Um, no :3d_frown:
Unless the cutoof looks even close to this http://www.theretrofitsource.com/images/products/hid-projectors/TL Projector Output ZKW-Rl.jpg (which I know it doesn't), you're the reason states are passing laws trying to ban HID's. Also, it doesn't matter where you buy the HID kit, they're garbage if they're rebased bulbs (i.e. if they fit in an H4 socket, they're rebased).
You might like how that looks, but people in the know see it as rice.
^and 10k.
10k is way to bright. Its the worse thing ever. Honestly id rather have a drunk driver coming at me with proper headlights than someone coming at me with 10k. It way to bright to the point where i cant see the road the lines or even the car with 10k lights.
Your lights are way too bright. get max 5k and be done with it. The higher k does not mean you have better light. And blue doesn't do shit but make your usable light even worse.
Edit you cant even see your projector if you even have them. Proper hids you can see the projector when the lights are on as long as your not looking at the cutoff or below. Your lights are scattered as hell.
10k is way to bright. Its the worse thing ever. Honestly id rather have a drunk driver coming at me with proper headlights than someone coming at me with 10k. It way to bright to the point where i cant see the road the lines or even the car with 10k lights.
Your lights are way too bright. get max 5k and be done with it. The higher k does not mean you have better light. And blue doesn't do shit but make your usable light even worse.
Edit you cant even see your projector if you even have them. Proper hids you can see the projector when the lights are on as long as your not looking at the cutoff or below. Your lights are scattered as hell.
no the ones blinding you are just misaimed and/or using HID in fluted glass housings meant for halogen bulbs.
this is why i'm just going to buy some cheap clear glass housings and retro in some FX-Replica or morimoto mini projectors in there.
this is why i'm just going to buy some cheap clear glass housings and retro in some FX-Replica or morimoto mini projectors in there.
They were in a benz or bmw tho. There are some that i see that are just plain way to bright and there are the ones that are just scattered. Maybe it was just bright and aimed wrong but still im thinking of some lights that shouldnt be sold.
Ive forgotten most of the stuff ive read about hids as it was a couple years ago and its not something i use all the time.
If you want hids save for quality or search other forums and buy some projectors or whole head lights with them and buy the parts needed to use them. There is no reason to cheap out spend 1-200 on crap just to spend another 600 later.
This is one of my biggest pepieves when driving.
Ive forgotten most of the stuff ive read about hids as it was a couple years ago and its not something i use all the time.
If you want hids save for quality or search other forums and buy some projectors or whole head lights with them and buy the parts needed to use them. There is no reason to cheap out spend 1-200 on crap just to spend another 600 later.
This is one of my biggest pepieves when driving.
what I was trying to get at is that if you aim them right you can still see and not blind others with the kit he was looking at getting. at least mine arnt that bad with what i have done with them. I have seen hondas have much more glare.
My plans later in life when i am done with college and have money to waist on the car is to get some projectors because i am aware that they are far superior, but for now this setup works and I can see far better at night.
My plans later in life when i am done with college and have money to waist on the car is to get some projectors because i am aware that they are far superior, but for now this setup works and I can see far better at night.
Mkiii supra;1662343 said:
No. If you aim them down that low you're getting worse lighting than stock.