Calculus whizzes -- got a question...

ma71supraturbo

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I've got a cute problem:

A car starts from rest and moves along a straight line with an acceleration of a = 3* s^(-1/3) (m/s^2) where s is in meters. Determine the car's velocity and position when t = 6 s.


Ok, so here's what I've done:

v dv = a ds
{ v dv = 3 { s^(-1/3) ds { = integral sign

integrated from 0-v and 0-s respectively

1/2 v^2 = 9/2 * s^(2/3) ---> v^2 = 3 * s^(2/3)

v = 3 * s^(1/3)




Now v = ds/dt therefore ds/dt = 3 * s^(1/3)

ds = 3 * s^(1/3) dt ---> ds / ( s^(1/3) ) = 3 dt

s^(-1/3) ds = 3 dt

{ s^(-1/3) ds = 3 { dt (integrated from 0-s and 0-t respectively)

3/2 s^(2/3) = 3 * t ----> s^(2/3) = 2t

s = (2t)^(3/2)




OK, so plug in t=6 s and find that s = 41.57 meters. This is the correct answer.

Now, I want to find out the velocity at t=6. I would assume I could now take the derivative of s(t) to get v(t):


v = ds/dt = d/dt (2 * t^(3/2) ) ----> 2 * (3/2) * t^(1/2)

v = 3 * t^(1/2)

Plug in t=6: v(6) = 3 * 6^.5 = 7.35m/s This is the wrong answer...


Now if I reuse the original velocity equation (in terms of position s):

v(s) = 3 * s ^(1/3) ---> v(41.57) = 3 * (41.57)^(1/3)

V = 10.39 m/s -- This is the correct answer.


So why doesn't taking the derivative work?
 

jmanbball

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Your derivative is wrong. The expression for s is (2t)^(3/2). You can't just pull the 2 out and rewrite the function 2*t^(3/2). It should be
2^(3/2)*t^(3/2). so your deriv should be 3*sqrt(2)*t^(.5). That will give you the correct answer.
 

NgoFcukinWay

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eewww...particle questions. I hated those fuckers. Took me forever to get the hang of those. I unno why, but I hate it when I see math typed out like that. I find it hard to understand.
 

ma71supraturbo

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Got Boost? said:
eewww...particle questions. I hated those fuckers. Took me forever to get the hang of those. I unno why, but I hate it when I see math typed out like that. I find it hard to understand.

Yeah, I'm reviewing for a dynamics midterm. Anytime I see xi yj zk I want to take a nap...
 

americanjebus

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^ no shit, i took a physics class at the same time as i took algebra 2 and i only knew my algebra 2 stuff because we started covering it in phys and i actually liked it!