Sub solutions advice

[suprarx7nut]

I am looking into my options for subs. I want to keep the spare tire and of course the targa has to fit. I get a steal of a deal on hardware from alpine, infinity, rockford and kenwood.

I dont want thump. I listen to rock, so it needs to be tight, musical bass.
My current thoughts:

1. Get two 8" infinity reference subs (dirt cheap) and make a 20x10x5.5" box.

2. Get a 10" apline type R and make a ~16x12x6 box.


SUGGESTIONS?

 

[GrimJack]

Boxes with parallel surfaces like that suck. Bigtime. Boxes that are small enough to fit between the Targa mounts and the spare tire, with surfaces that are enough out of parallel to matter, don't exist for a reason.

The spare sucks too - I suggest replacing it with an AAA membership. Cheap and small enough to fit in your wallet.

Bottom line - you're going to have to sacrifice something here - whether it's the spare, the targa mount, back seat, or decent sound, it's up to you.

 

[A-to-the-J]

have you looked at the shallow mount subwoofers? i was looking into these.

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Prod...p=111&nvpair=AG_General%7cFFShallow_Mount

 

[shenronzero]

have you looked at the shallow mount subwoofers? i was looking into these.

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Prod...&c=3&tp=111&nvpair=AG_General|FFShallow_Mount

ive got four pioneer premeir shallow mounts in my trunk minus the spare but i can still use my targa... if you do like 1 or 2 12's they hit great and the way they are made with an air suspension sytem and the hit all the frequencys... like i listen to rock, rap, hip hop, jazz, ska every really and they hit everything very nicely. with only doing one or two you can still have access to your spare and still use your targa top. here is mine so you can get an idea. i love them they sound great.

 

[suprarx7nut]

Well I really want to maximize my cargo area too. I need to have space for golf clubs.

I can see getting rid of the spare and going the AAA route. Hell I can get roadside assistance on my cell service for 3 bucks/month.

I just dont want to sacrifice anything. I know, hard customer, right?

The box would NOT be perfectly boxy. It would be something like 18x12x4.5x6 or close to that. The side up against the seats would be taller than the side towards the rear of the car.


Side view

<Front of car<
______
|........------_____
|________________|

^Something like that^

I haven't seen anyone with a set-up like I want, I'll try to get it set-up later this summer if not this month.

 

[A-to-the-J]

This Box:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=178650&i=130SBOX10&tp=554

was made for this sub:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-yXWi656cUYT/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=130TSS2541

just trying to help

 

[suprarx7nut]

This Box:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=178650&i=130SBOX10&tp=554

was made for this sub:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-yXWi656cUYT/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=130TSS2541

just trying to help

Yes, exactly what I plan to do, but the box is not going to be that wide and will actually be slightly taller. The type R only requires 0.7 cu. ft. of volume in a sealed box so I should be able to get away with only 20 inches wide.

 

[GrimJack]

Keep in mind that *required* space and *ideal* space are not the same thing at all. Required space is a mostly fictional number created by marketing. Kind of like the minimum system requirements listed for games... sure, you *can* play that game on a P3 with 512K of RAM... as long as you don't mind turning off all the eye candy and playing in a ridiculously low resolution.

It's MUCH easier to remove volume than add it. Glue a couple extra blocks of wood to the inside of the box and you have smaller volume.

 

[suprarx7nut]

Keep in mind that *required* space and *ideal* space are not the same thing at all. Required space is a mostly fictional number created by marketing. Kind of like the minimum system requirements listed for games... sure, you *can* play that game on a P3 with 512K of RAM... as long as you don't mind turning off all the eye candy and playing in a ridiculously low resolution.

It's MUCH easier to remove volume than add it. Glue a couple extra blocks of wood to the inside of the box and you have smaller volume.

Ya, I realize more volume is better. I'd like to have at least 1 cu ft. of volume, but I want the box to impede as little of my cargo area as possible.

I really think that a 20x12x~6" box with a slant would fit well and that gives me about .8 cu ft. :dunno:

Do you guys think the single 10" type r is the way to go? Would the dual 8" infinities have any chance at competing with the type r?

 

[pbasil1]

Imho, build a nice custom box to fit under the targa. Since you get a good deal on alpine, grab a type R 12". They dont require that much mounting depth, and can bet fairly clean. Just be sure to build the box to be about 1.3cu/ft net volume. Though if you really are super pressed for space, do the same thing but t=with the 10" type R, but make the box about .9cu/ft net.

Stay away from the infinities, they are cheap ass little subs. Even the kappa perfects were'nt anything special. Infinity isnt who they used to be.

Next is the amp... Cant sound good without a nice amp. For either sub try to grab a 400-500w rms @ 2ohm amp from alpine. It should be just about rught for the Type R, but you can always go bigger if you want!


You must work at best buy...LOL

 

[Justin]

You must work at best buy...LOL

That's what I was thinking too



I'd go with two of the shallow mounts in a custom box that is easy to remove. They sound pretty damn good if you throw tons of power at 'em.

Get a PDX 1.1000 and you'll be good.

 

[suprarx7nut]

You must work at best buy...LOL

Mobile consultant at your service.


I meant to quit earlier this year... then they gave me a fat raise and promotion with bonus opportunities. (Sigh), I'm such a sucker.

Anywho, the amp will almost invariably be one of the lower end mono Alpine amps. Should be just the right amount of juice. I think the lowest is 200W RMS @ 4 ohms and the nicer is 300W RMS.

 

[supraman7mgte]

I took out my rear seat and made a custom fiber glass enclosure with 2 12 " subs.
Not like i'm gonna be able to fit anyone back there,right? The speakers have grills,so I don't really have anything to worry about as far as damage.The rear seats still fold down,so I can stil carry cargo.Targa top and spare are still utilized.

 

[pbasil1]

Mobile consultant at your service.


I meant to quit earlier this year... then they gave me a fat raise and promotion with bonus opportunities. (Sigh), I'm such a sucker.

Anywho, the amp will almost invariably be one of the lower end mono Alpine amps. Should be just the right amount of juice. I think the lowest is 200W RMS @ 4 ohms and the nicer is 300W RMS.

Meh, go high end... Get the best you can! You have a great discount on the stuff, so take advantage of it! I work at circuit city and i bought the best kicker stuff i could afford when i built my old system.... Then i sold it all a yr later for way more than i paid for it and got some real high end stuff....lol It worked out nicely for me.

 

[Who]

Did you ever consdider a Bazooka tube. Small and removable.

 

[pbasil1]

Did you ever consdider a Bazooka tube. Small and removable.

And no bass.... lol Oh yeah, or SQ!

 

[suprarx7nut]

Did you ever consdider a Bazooka tube. Small and removable.

I dont get a smokin' deal on any tubes, so no.