Project: CNC Machined thermostat housing

[4U2QUIK]

UPDATE ON PAGE 4!! FINALLY MADE THE PROTOTYPE!
TEST FITTED ON PAGE 5!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1494.jpg
THE HOSE FITTING WILL BE BARBED! DON'T WORRY!

I'm working on making one of these for myself, and I wanted to see if anyone else is interested in them also. I also Want to get some suggestions from everyone.
Here's the first draft of the solid model. It's kind of rough...
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/SUPRA%20BUILD/tstathousingsolid.jpg
update on post #34
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/THERMOSTATV6-5.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/THERMOSTATV6-5B.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1489.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1488.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1495.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1496.jpg
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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1500.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1501.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1502.jpg
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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1505.jpg

[IJ.]

Be a good idea to make it a bit longer so you can pull the Timing cover without draining coolant then it's not just a Chi Chi ;)

[upgradedsupra]

Be a good idea to make it a bit longer so you can pull the Timing cover without draining coolant then it's not just a Chi Chi ;)

Funny, I can take mine off no problem. :)

[IJ.]

Funny, I can take mine off no problem. :)
But you have many :nutswinger

[4U2QUIK]

looks ok, The water neck will have to be addressed though.
I'm not understanding? (maybe it's the head cold I'm getting over.)


Be a good idea to make it a bit longer so you can pull the Timing cover without draining coolant then it's not just a Chi Chi ;)
Yeah, I was already thinking about doing that. Plus it will actually make it easier to machine.
btw I literally drew this up in under 10 minutes


I am interested depending how the finish product looks and cost.

The finish will be very good. A matter of fact I'll garuntee that the finish will be better than a 32ra finish. (probably better) Plus I'm probably going to have them anodized and teflon coated.
I'll try to keep the cost between 50-100$ range. I know it's a big range. But it's a early estimation. Considering this solid model is a very rough draft.

[Rennat]

when we talked about this the first time i thought you meant the actual one that bolts to the head... or is that the next project? cause i got some killer ideas for that project.

either way we can test fit it on my car. hahaha

and my first suggestion would be to move the 3 ports on the left of the model as far downward of an angle as possible so that you dont have a sensor sticking up past the housing. but still enough space for either a regular flange head bolt or a hex head bolt (which i think would look the best with a custom housing like this)


With your laser etcher, or even the CNC, could we engrave "supra" into the cover? and maybe get it anodized black and then fill the letters in with some red paint?

[upgradedsupra]

when we talked about this the first time i thought you meant the actual one that bolts to the head..

Been done, aka one off. :)

I've always hated that abortion of a water neck in factory form.

[4U2QUIK]

when we talked about this the first time i thought you meant the actual one that bolts to the head... or is that the next project? cause i got some killer ideas for that project.
I'm just going to remove the flash from the stock neck and anodize it red. I personally think the stock neck looks fine, it just that abortion of a housing in the front that I can't stand.


either way we can test fit it on my car. hahaha
ummmmmmmmm... No.
j/k



and my first suggestion would be to move the 3 ports on the left of the model as far downward of an angle as possible so that you dont have a sensor sticking up past the housing. but still enough space for either a regular flange head bolt or a hex head bolt (which i think would look the best with a custom housing like this)
I'm working on it right now.



With your laser etcher, or even the CNC, could we engrave "supra" into the cover? and maybe get it anodized black and then fill the letters in with some red paint?

I'm going to red anodize mine, and then I'll use the black ceramic tape to mark supra in black on it. It will look sick just like my pipes.



Been done, aka one off. :)

I've always hated that abortion of a water neck in factory form.

yeah, the one off got me thinking about doing this project.

[upgradedsupra]

yeah, the one off got me thinking about doing this project.

For the amount of work involved, nobody will pay for the entire set-up like mine. (not that I would sell them) Besides, the OEM CPS can not be used and I have no PS which will also be in the way.

Doing the outside like you posted, well, that will be different but good luck, much work ahead. ;)

[4U2QUIK]

Not reaally that much work, I have mad skills...
here's another idea.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/suprastat.jpg
once agaain this is just a rough model.

[Rennat]

I like it better with the holes all on the one side. Cause that poet would be too close to the fan for me to run a wire there.

I'm thinking that I should be there when you cut it out for the first time

[jimi87-t]

I'd be interested if they were for sale.

Is there not a problem with fan interference for you guys who can take the timing cover off without moving this part? Or, do you guys not use the stock fan? I love the idea of extending it out for that reason, but I will not be ditching the stock fan.


Mine is not extended out, this is why I don't have a problem (see pic) ;)
BTW, Duanes is way more extensive than my set-up.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b189/jimichonga/DSCN2305.jpg

[tekdeus]

^^^ Why didn't Toyota put the radiator inlet on that side?

[upgradedsupra]

Keep the drama to a nothing please and thanks.

Duane

[IJ.]

Not having a bad night at all it's just getting very old.....

[4U2QUIK]

Moving right along....

Can you make one with no sensor holes? Id be down for one.

I was planning on supplying plugs for people that want to delete the sensors alltogether.
I have another revision that I'll post later today or tomarrow.
it's way way way closer to a final and machinable model.


i'd but in for one... PM me the price if you get enough people into it :icon_smil
now why would I do that? I'm not not trying to sell anything yet, I'm just trying to generate interest and get ideas at this point.

[Zumtizzle]

In the "extension" area I'd drill and tap one 1/8 NPT type sensors on the side and at the top have a slightly bigger plug for bleeding air. :)

But i'm going to question going through the trouble of doing a teflon coating on this housing. Assuming you're doing it for the non-stick characteristics and anti-corrosion characteristics; using any modern off the shelf coolant already has these characteristics engineered in.

But if it's little trouble i wouldn't say no. :)

[jimi87-t]

jimi, what radiator is that?

It's a Jegs aluminum duel 1" core Ford style layout radiator. More info is in my build thread, starting in the first post and more info on page 3 (read it, don't just look at the pics ;).

[4U2QUIK]

UPDATE:
I've put a few more hours into it.
tell me what you think!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/THERMOSTATV6-5.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/THERMOSTATV6-5B.jpg


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1489.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1488.jpg

[4U2QUIK]

I like it better with the holes all on the one side. Cause that poet would be too close to the fan for me to run a wire there.


well, as I pointed out today it clears without any issue. and the stock wire will be exactly the right length




Is there not a problem with fan interference for you guys who can take the timing cover off without moving this part? Or, do you guys not use the stock fan? I love the idea of extending it out for that reason, but I will not be ditching the stock fan.

it would have to be spced out over an inch before fan interferance would be an issue. I'm only spacing it out 1/4" which should be just enough to clear the timing cover. I've spent a bit of time just staring at the front of the engine making sure everything will fit right.



^^^ Why didn't Toyota put the radiator inlet on that side?
1 word. crossflow.


In the "extension" area I'd drill and tap one 1/8 NPT type sensors on the side and at the top have a slightly bigger plug for bleeding air. :)
ummm why a 1/8" npt? why not just use a 3/8" npt to 1/8" npt sleeve?
plus, if you were using it for fan controll or engine management you'd want it on the other side of the thermostat. Which there is already a boss that's in the perfect spot.


But i'm going to question going through the trouble of doing a teflon coating on this housing. Assuming you're doing it for the non-stick characteristics and anti-corrosion characteristics; using any modern off the shelf coolant already has these characteristics engineered in.

But if it's little trouble i wouldn't say no. :)
the teflon dip isn't that much more for the lot price, plus it makes it easy to clean since bare anodize gets dirty fast.

[Slow66]

Only thing I can add is there should be a bead at the end of the pipe to aid with hose retention...

[4U2QUIK]

I'm probbly going to barb the outlet. The reason why i didn't draw it was because a barb is a pain in the butt to draw.

[Slow66]

I'm probbly going to barb the outlet. The reason why i didn't draw it was because a barb is a pain in the butt to draw.

Fair enough. :)

[4U2QUIK]

I just dropped off the solid model and prints at the shop. with any luck I should have a prototype i nthe next week or so.

[InFrnt0fU]

Most of the time when I see something teflon coated, it has a yellowish or milky look to it. Is that just a quality thing or does teflon always do that?

Teflon is very milky white and comes in handy when playing some disgusting practical jokes in liquid form.:evil2:

[4U2QUIK]

yeah, and when you get anodized teflon dipped the coating is so thin that it's clear.
But anyway, I'm probably going to not anodize and dip them because people will want different colors, and if that's the case it makes it much more expensive.

[4U2QUIK]

i'm supposed to hear bach from my friends shop tomarrow...

[Doward]

If the timing cover will clear without removing the hose, I want one. Bare - I'll powdercoat it myself :D

[4U2QUIK]

I'm going to do them bare just for the reason of people will want their own coatings, and not what's best. As for clearing the cover. it should, and if it dosen't. It will.

I just got done talking to the shop and he said he'll have some pricing for me in the next day or so. I thought he was going to get back to me yesterday, but he's got some big project that he's doing for saleen so according to him and that's why I don't have a quote yet.
if he dosn't get back to me soon I'll prototype it out this next weekend myself on a prototrack machine.

[4U2QUIK]

ok, he's telling me that it's going to be around 100$, and that we will be doing the prototype on sunday. hear that rennat?

[4U2QUIK]

DAY EARLY PREVIEW!!!!!
i ended up doing the prototype in a prototrak today.
it'll be done tomarrow!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1489.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1488.jpg

[4U2QUIK]

:aigo:FINALLY, IT'S DONE!:aigo:
I'll be test fitting it later when my car cools down.
also, I didn't put the barb on this one because I plan on making mine a -an fitting later on.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1494.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1490.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1491.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1492.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1493.jpg

I did the prototype on a retrofitted bridgeport style machine so the finish isn't nearly as good as it would be if I did it in the cnc's. But all of the cnc machines had jobs setup in them so I couldn't use them for this.

[IJ.]

Would it have been better to bring the hose fitting flush with the end of the housing?

[4U2QUIK]

it's already 1/4 of an inch furthur out than the stock outlet. I'm hoping this will be enough to clear the timing cover for removal. Plus if I moved it up it would cause some blending issues that would require more machining time to clean up. The way it is, it's a very simplw part to machine. Also, I left .1 extra material on the top for some engraving experimenting.

[IJ.]

Don't think 1/4" will do it from memory.

[4U2QUIK]

You guys.... no just me, some jackass decided to flake on me. That was reason number 1 out of about 5 why the housing wasn't made in a 3 axis cnc. It's also why it took me about 7 hours instead of a couple.

but anyway, here some pics of the initial test fit on rennat's supra.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1495.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1496.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1499.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1500.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1501.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1502.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1503.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1504.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1505.jpg

[IJ.]

Can you get the timing cover off?

[4U2QUIK]

jackass.... you had to ask :)
dosen't look like it, but i didn't try either. looks like it needs to come out another .250" to .375" which shouldn't make too much of a difference. I'll just shift everything up the same amoutn.

[IJ.]

<snigger> ;)

[jimi87-t]

Looks good.
Another thing you could do is just make a 1/2" spacer for the stock one.

[IJ.]

Also needs a lip.

[4U2QUIK]

Also needs a lip.

grumpy old man that can't read. j/k :icon_bigg

I left the barb off of this one because I'm going to thread it for a giant -an fitting.

[4U2QUIK]

<snigger> ;)
can't spell either... snicker.... snigger just looks wrong...


Looks good.
Another thing you could do is just make a 1/2" spacer for the stock one.

I'm definately thinking about it.

[IJ.]

I didn't http://www.bettymills.com/store/images/product/small/MMM01202.JPG I sniggered ;) (probably a geographical thing as the N word doesn't have the same connotation here)

And yes I agree a 1000 PSI fitting makes perfect sens on a 13 psi joint :D

[4U2QUIK]

so which is it?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/SNICKER
or
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/SNIGGER

looks like one is an older version of the same word......
Damn you're old...

[IJ.]

Damn you're old...

LOL uhhh DUH!

http://ij.supramania.com/captain.jpg

[upgradedsupra]

^^ lol

[4U2QUIK]

I just got some prices

1 thermostat housing is 210.00
10 housings are $110.00 each
20 - 50 housings are 100$ each
I'll be going group buy with this very soon.

[Doward]

You're really going to want to make certain the timing cover can come off without removing the hose or clamp, first :)

That would be my biggest reason to buy one of these.

Can we have 7M engraved? ;)

[the t3d]

+1 on the "7M" engraving!

-t3d

[4U2QUIK]

You're really going to want to make certain the timing cover can come off without removing the hose or clamp, first :)

That would be my biggest reason to buy one of these.

Can we have 7M engraved? ;)
i test fit it today, and it just barely dosen't clear. About another 1/4" for a total of .5" spacing, and it should clear.

btw i polished the outlet today.....
check it out.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1525.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1524.jpg
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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1522.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/100_1521.jpg

[upgradedsupra]

Why does it not have a counter bore? That would make it look much cleaner.

Duane

[Doward]

So get back to the drawing board, move the outlet out another 3/8" (since you said about 1/4", I like to have a little extra wiggle room ;)) and see about getting 7M engraved on it ;)

[upgradedsupra]

So get back to the drawing board, move the outlet out another 3/8" (since you said about 1/4", I like to have a little extra wiggle room ;)) and see about getting 7M engraved on it ;)

Doing a counter bore would be an easy change. You want to show off it's a 7M? ;)

[Doward]

Damn right I do ;)

[upgradedsupra]

Damn right I do ;)

Just checkin. ;)

[4U2QUIK]

Why does it not have a counter bore? That would make it look much cleaner.

Duane

I'm not sure where you're asking for the counterbore to be. But if you mean c-bore the bolt holes, I would need More clearance unless I included SHCS's Which would once again Drive up the price either way.




So get back to the drawing board, move the outlet out another 3/8" (since you said about 1/4", I like to have a little extra wiggle room ;)) and see about getting 7M engraved on it ;)

Sounds about Right. I probably won't have a chance to get back to the drawing board for a week or more because I'm dead smack in the middle of buying my first house. But if I can squeeze some time in for it I will. I want to get this group buy going.


Just checkin. ;)

[4U2QUIK]

nevermind...
How about a spacer that will work with the stock housing or this housing. It would probably be cheaper than getting the next size larger stock. right now I can use 2" thick stock. if I move the outlet 3/8" I'd have to buy 2.5" thick stock, which is a lot more material to move and it's a bit more money for the stock. right now the stock dimensions are 4 X 3.5 X 2 and I'm using 2 X 4" bar now. So if I use 1/2" flat bar for the spacer it will be cheaper.

[4U2QUIK]

sooo, I found a little bit of time to work on this, and I have two different designs. one is based off of the original. and the other is a entirely new design. With any luck I'll post them up later today or early tomarrow.
Then once it's posted I'll do a vote on which design is best.

[4U2QUIK]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/outletX1.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/outletX2.jpg

[4U2QUIK]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/outletX3.jpg

[IJ.]

#2.

[SURUKO]

#2 is looking nicer ......

[NTRA08]

How about a pic of the inside

[Doward]

I like #2 as well.

[NashMan]

odd i offered the same thing but no one really wanted one shrugs

the only down fall was for people with bigger rad's with stock shrouds very stupid close fit

down fall 2 the temp sensor location is useless spot since the thermostat is infront of it

the only perk to this is if you have adjustable cam gears and want to ajust them and still keep the stock look and pretty ?

[GC89]

I like #2 as well.


+1

[Doward]

As long as I can still get 7M engraved on the raised portion ;)

[upgradedsupra]

I'm not sure where you're asking for the counterbore to be. But if you mean c-bore the bolt holes, I would need More clearance unless I included SHCS's Which would once again Drive up the price either way.

LOL Drive up price? Dude, it will take less than 5 mins to do that. Counter bore the holes that you attach the housing. Then you can use nice, clean, socket head caps screws and keep everything flush. ;) Yes you would need more clearance but not much and I am sure it will still clear. Just a thought and that's what I would do if I made it.

Duane

[4U2QUIK]

How about a pic of the inside
nope, denied...


#2.


#2 is looking nicer ......



I like #2 as well.


+1
ok... sounds like the 2's have it.
I guess I'll have the prototype sometime in the next week or so. I might be kind of hard to find the time while I'm boxing up all my stuff for the big move.



As long as I can still get 7M engraved on the raised portion ;)
nah, I'll engrave 7m sux on it instead. j/k
actually I want to use the laser engraver to do the engraving, I can pretty much take any b/w image and engrave it. I personally am going to put the image of a boobie on mine just for IJ.


LOL Drive up price? Dude, it will take less than 5 mins to do that. Counter bore the holes that you attach the housing. Then you can use nice, clean, socket head caps screws and keep everything flush. ;) Yes you would need more clearance but not much and I am sure it will still clear. Just a thought and that's what I would do if I made it.

Duane
5 minutes of production time = $12.50 being added to the final price.
Soo ,when it comes to production time 5 minutes is a lot considering the whole part will take between 20-30+ minutes to produce one part on the cnc.
But anyhow, I succumbed to the idea, and if you look closely the new design is counterbored for SHCS.

[4U2QUIK]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/outletX4.jpg
i moved the bottom of the counter bore up so it's more visable.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c276/sonichuskerdu/outletX5.jpg

[upgradedsupra]

5 minutes of production time = $12.50 being added to the final price.
Soo ,when it comes to production time 5 minutes is a lot considering the whole part will take between 20-30+ minutes to produce one part on the cnc.
But anyhow, I succumbed to the idea, and if you look closely the new design is counterbored for SHCS.

I was being sarcastic. It would literally take a couple of seconds to do them and looks cleaner. You wanted feedback, you have it. ;)

Duane

[4U2QUIK]

thanks! :)

[ut89supra]

its looking really good

[4U2QUIK]

Well, if anyone was wondering.... Yes, I'm still working on these. But I've been having problems finding a shop other than the one I work at that's reliable. So Tomarrow I'm going to be talking to the guys at billet balls (They make billet shifter knobs) about making them for me.

[upgradedsupra]

Nice change on the counter bore. ;)

[4U2QUIK]

lol, thanks. I talked to the guys at billetballs.com. Things look promising....

[4U2QUIK]

people suck....
but anyway, I was thinking about getting back to these. anyone still interested?

[HKS_TRD]

Trying to sell CNC parts can be very trying

I see alot of hatin on the stock water neck and thermostat housing. You can also use the JDM one, which only has 2 instead of 3 fittings on it, and if you use a file, some TLC and some more time ant TLC again, you can make the water neck and thermostat housing look OK, as per below.

I was toying with getting a CNC thermostat cover made here, so I am very interested to see how your second design pans out

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/Rebuild/WaterNeck.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/Rebuild/WaterNeck2.jpg

[upgradedsupra]

Trying to sell CNC parts can be very trying

I see alot of hatin on the stock water neck and thermostat housing. You can also use the JDM one, which only has 2 instead of 3 fittings on it, and if you use a file, some TLC and some more time ant TLC again, you can make the water neck and thermostat housing look OK, as per below.

I was toying with getting a CNC thermostat cover made here, so I am very interested to see how your second design pans out

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/Rebuild/WaterNeck.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg152/HKS_TRD/Rebuild/WaterNeck2.jpg

That looks badass Dan, now to add his water neck cnc part to it and perfect! Of course, polish it, too.

Duane

For the OP, the parts are hard to sell because many don't want to pay what it is worth, and, CNC parts are not cheap to make.

[IJ.]

That looks badass Dan, now to add his water neck cnc part to it and perfect! Of course, polish it, too.

Duane

For the OP, the parts are hard to sell because many don't want to pay what it is worth, and, CNC parts are not cheap to make.
Well they are but it needs volume production to get to the "cheap" point, industry tends to amortise infrastructure long after it's paid for itself so the cost doesn't change for the life of the machines.

[upgradedsupra]

Well they are but it needs volume production to get to the "cheap" point, industry tends to amortise infrastructure long after it's paid for itself so the cost doesn't change for the life of the machines.


Ok, well, if you look at it that way (which I should have) it can be cheaper. :)

Duane

[IJ.]

As with everything Garbage in = Garbage out, it all depends on the skill of the designer/programmer but once the code is done you could train a monkey to run the machine and it would spit of perfect parts all day long with minimal human intervention ;)

[upgradedsupra]

As with everything Garbage in = Garbage out, it all depends on the skill of the designer/programmer but once the code is done you could train a monkey to run the machine and it would spit of perfect parts all day long with minimal human intervention ;)


lol Well, lets see the price for the OP, I guess. Maybe he can sell these?

Duane

[HKS_TRD]

Sorry if its already stated but would the CNC part have the option of having no threads tapped in it? That would be a big incentive for me to go CNC, though I do like the look of the anodized grub screws

[upgradedsupra]

Sorry if its already stated but would the CNC part have the option of having no threads tapped in it? That would be a big incentive for me to go CNC, though I do like the look of the anodized grub screws


That could be added since it is not made yet, or, you could it yourself later if need be.

Duane

[HKS_TRD]

For those of us that dont run any sensors in there having one with no holes would look really clean. THough not sure how many people use those ports on the thermostat housing.

[4U2QUIK]

That looks badass Dan, now to add his water neck cnc part to it and perfect! Of course, polish it, too.

Duane

For the OP, the parts are hard to sell because many don't want to pay what it is worth, and, CNC parts are not cheap to make.

Being a cnc programmer makes it a lot easier though. Plus if things work out in the next couple of months, I'll be buying a cnc soon. This will make it so I can keep prices lower than mother others could.
and yeah, most people don't understand what it takes to make cnc parts.


As with everything Garbage in = Garbage out, it all depends on the skill of the designer/programmer but once the code is done you could train a monkey to run the machine and it would spit of perfect parts all day long with minimal human intervention ;)

yessir! That's part of my business plan. I'm working on a contract to modify 10,000 mismolded flashlights for the FBI. I'm most likely going to build a fixture that's idiot safe. (nothing is truely idiot proof in a machine shop) Then hire a monkey to run it while I'm at my other job during the day.


lol Well, lets see the price for the OP, I guess. Maybe he can sell these?

Duane

I was shooting for 100-120$
and I would of course be selling these on my 1uz store.


Sorry if its already stated but would the CNC part have the option of having no threads tapped in it? That would be a big incentive for me to go CNC, though I do like the look of the anodized grub screws

Yeah I can just omit the holes. But one of the things that I did in my design is I moved all the sensors to the bottom of the housing out of sight. So if you just plugged the holes there would be nothing to see.

[upgradedsupra]

^ That's a reasonable price range.

[4U2QUIK]

I kinda thought so. If I can get enough progress on my 1UZ this week I might try and make a prototype of the new design next week.

[upgradedsupra]

Dan, you can't just make one with the sensors missing if mostly everyone needs them, get what I am saying? You could always plug it though as I said.

Duane

[4U2QUIK]

and those anodized plugs look great.

[upgradedsupra]

^ Exactly, this way you can make them to accommodate everyone and he can do a simple plug for the hole he doesn't want. :)

Duane

WIN WIN!

[HKS_TRD]

Dan, you can't just make one with the sensors missing if mostly everyone needs them, get what I am saying? You could always plug it though as I said.

Duane

I hear what you are saying but I thought perhaps if those were a later and separate step in the process they could possibly be omitted

I'm not too up to speed with the logistics of a CNC machine

[upgradedsupra]

Well, doing it this way will allow him to make a bunch to sell, and, this way you get one too. :)

Duane

[4U2QUIK]

exactly, and I think the thing to do here is to offer the plugs on my website. Maybe even make them an pulldown option.

[HKS_TRD]

Well, doing it this way will allow him to make a bunch to sell, and, this way you get one too. :)

Duane

OK I think I understand now

I had become rather attached to the OEM one that did all the file work on but a CNC one is a very tasty proposition

[upgradedsupra]

OK I think I understand now

I had become rather attached to the OEM one that did all the file work on but a CNC one is a very tasty proposition


lol Well, it does look good the way you have it but the CNC piece would be a nice touch.

Duane

[NashMan]

looks a tad bulky to me

[upgradedsupra]

^ Since I made one as well, (although it is a different design and water neck) it has to be a certain thickness to accommodate the stat. It could be simple for you, just don't buy one. ;)

Duane

[4U2QUIK]

looks a tad bulky to me

like duane said, plus the new design is going to clear the timing cover which is the main point of the second design. If it weren't for that I would have already made dozens of the first design which was less bulky and looks killer on my red supra.

[upgradedsupra]

Clearing timing cover as in, not having to take stat apart to take off stock cover? (for those that run it)

Duane

[4U2QUIK]

yep

[upgradedsupra]

That right there is a win, win. ;)

[IJ.]

4U: I "fixed" your sig ;)
(hope you don't mind)

[4U2QUIK]

thankyou duane
and thank you again IJ!
I'm not all that link savvy yet. ;)

[Mk3runner]

progress?

[4U2QUIK]

progress...... possibly this weekend if everything goes right.

[4U2QUIK]

floppy drive on the prototrak took a crap...... I'll have to fix his first...

[4U2QUIK]

fixed... too bad I'm going to be too busy this weekend.

[ricoboost]

so any news i really want to see it done im probably be a buyer if you chose to make a bunch for sale

[4U2QUIK]

YA KNOW..... I will get back to this but right now my problem is that there isn't enough hours in a day, and I can only stay awake for so long