600rwhp with stinger

[quake]

So i finally broke 600 today what do you think about the power under the curve car is running a port & polish buy me, and a conservative cam. Boost was at 25psi. Numbers are up quite a bit under the curve jumps 200rwhp from 4-45k.

[RockPaperSwoRD]

nice, what mods do you have? How much have you spent to get to that point, im aiming for 600whp, need to set a budget =P

[quake]

3.5" down pipe

3.5" cat back custom by me

Stinger ems

built motor

forged rods/pistons

1000cc injectors

gharrett intercooler

67mm turbo

twin blowoffs

dual pumps

5 angle valve job

modified header

act 6 puck clutch

rebuilt trans 5 speed

tial 44mm wastegate

mild port & polish by me

mild cam

[ERA]

wow, nice numbers!

[quake]

wow, nice numbers!

thanks

[suprahero]

Quake, did you notice any gains at all when you went with the 3.5" dp and exhaust? Does it sound different, better?

Great numbers. Is this on a 7m? I picked up a lot of horsepower between 4500-5500 also when I went to the Stinger.

Any dyno videos?..........please, pretty please.

[quake]

Quake, did you notice any gains at all when you went with the 3.5" dp and exhaust? Does it sound different, better?

Great numbers. Is this on a 7m? I picked up a lot of horsepower between 4500-5500 also when I went to the Stinger.

Any dyno videos?..........please, pretty please.

yeah 7m car has had the stinger on it for a year now just trying to optimize my power. The bigger ex helped alot but i did not want the noise of a 4". Sounds very good and i will post a street vid soon. I did however add a magnaflow full size muffler under the car as my 5" inlet muffler don't do much.

[suprahero]

I'm running the magnaflow also, but it's on a 3". I've been wanting to go with a 3.5". I made the one I've got so I can definately weld up a 3.5", but I"ve got to find an adabpter for my turbo to the 3.5"

[cjsupra90]

Looks pretty good.. Have you played with fueling between 3.5K and 4.5K rpm? Seems like a bit more fuel might bring that up some looking at the torque curve and AFR's, also whats your Timing at through that range? From the looks of the plot, Im guessing that that range is all durning boost rise, if so you might be able to sneek in a couple degree more timing then what you have along with a bit more fuel and probably pick up some more power there...

What Stinger model are you running and did you data log during the pull?

[Supra28]

Wow, those are some really nice numbers! I was looking at the graph for a while trying to see if it says what engine this is from hahaha. I love how the torque numbers are often close to the hp numbers on the 7M's.

Nice job! :thumbup:

[suprahero]

I would also like to look at your tune if you dont' mind posting it. I'm interested in your timing chart mainly.

[empera]

very nice man, seems like a nice template for where i'd like to be soon...any vids?

[cjsupra90]

I would also like to look at your tune if you dont' mind posting it. I'm interested in your timing chart mainly.

Yeah, timing and boost rise / curve is what Im curious of... Above 4.5K rpm, should be pretty good but being it a 7M with its masive stroke making that much power on a very mild cams seems to me that it should have a stronger mid range (2K to 4K RPM)....

[quake]

Looks pretty good.. Have you played with fueling between 3.5K and 4.5K rpm? Seems like a bit more fuel might bring that up some looking at the torque curve and AFR's, also whats your Timing at through that range? From the looks of the plot, Im guessing that that range is all durning boost rise, if so you might be able to sneek in a couple degree more timing then what you have along with a bit more fuel and probably pick up some more power there...

What Stinger model are you running and did you data log during the pull?

yeah i did pull fuel during the runs up top and the numbers came up timing was around 21 deg or so at peak tq. I will go back and play more a bit later but over my last sheet i had posted i picked up quit a bit with the changes. Car was on 115 motor octane for a dyno pull i first want to get the boost stable then i play with the tune more

[quake]

I'm running the magnaflow also, but it's on a 3". I've been wanting to go with a 3.5". I made the one I've got so I can definately weld up a 3.5", but I"ve got to find an adabpter for my turbo to the 3.5"

i went to the bigger ar on the turbo at the same time so it was much improved

[quake]

Yeah, timing and boost rise / curve is what Im curious of... Above 4.5K rpm, should be pretty good but being it a 7M with its masive stroke making that much power on a very mild cams seems to me that it should have a stronger mid range (2K to 4K RPM)....

i only do a punch from about 3k or so as i would never floor it below 3600, with a 67mm and a .84ar

[upgradedsupra]

Congrats Quake! nice numbers bud. :)

Duane

[cjsupra90]

yeah i did pull fuel during the runs up top and the numbers came up timing was around 21 deg or so at peak tq. I will go back and play more a bit later but over my last sheet i had posted i picked up quit a bit with the changes. Car was on 115 motor octane for a dyno pull i first want to get the boost stable then i play with the tune more

Running 115, you should be able to add back quite a bit more timing but now that I know that you are still playing with it, that makes a difference.. I was under the impression that you were done. The other thing to remember is that as the torque curve starts to fall after peak, you can start adding back timing and this will help slow the torque drop thus increasing HP in the top end...


i only do a punch from about 3k or so as i would never floor it below 3600, with a 67mm and a .84ar

Good point, but what Im really refering to is 3500 to 4500... your torque curve in that range is concaved and being a 7m and its long stroke and running not having agressive cams, through that range, the curve should easily be a straight inclined line or even somewhat convexted... But this could also be due to your boost rise curve.. If that curve matches the torque curve in that range, then thats how its going to be, but if the boost rise curve is different then the torque rise curve (shape wise) then more tuning is needed in that range most likely....

All in all though, it looks like its got a pretty damn good tune on it minus some ultra fine tuning......

[quake]

I would also like to look at your tune if you dont' mind posting it. I'm interested in your timing chart mainly.

well on the street i lock my timing @ 16deg for pump gas on the dyn i run more cause of the octane runs 18 @ 19psi, 19 @ 20psi, 20deg @ 22 and so on from 4k peaks at 22deg @ 30psi

[quake]

Running 115, you should be able to add back quite a bit more timing but now that I know that you are still playing with it, that makes a difference.. I was under the impression that you were done. The other thing to remember is that as the torque curve starts to fall after peak, you can start adding back timing and this will help slow the torque drop thus increasing HP in the top end...



Good point, but what Im really refering to is 3500 to 4500... your torque curve in that range is concaved and being a 7m and its long stroke and running not having agressive cams, through that range, the curve should easily be a straight inclined line or even somewhat convexted... But this could also be due to your boost rise curve.. If that curve matches the torque curve in that range, then thats how its going to be, but if the boost rise curve is different then the torque rise curve (shape wise) then more tuning is needed in that range most likely....

All in all though, it looks like its got a pretty damn good tune on it minus some ultra fine tuning......

car is far from being tuned fully and i did not do any in that range this time around i only really payed attention to the 4k and up range this time

[quake]

Congrats Quake! nice numbers bud. :)

Duane

thanks man i'm trying the uncorrected number was 624

[upgradedsupra]

thanks man i'm trying the uncorrected number was 624

Nice :) Get that app filled out as we spoke of. ;)

[suprahero]

well on the street i lock my timing @ 16deg for pump gas on the dyn i run more cause of the octane runs 18 @ 19psi, 19 @ 20psi, 20deg @ 22 and so on from 4k peaks at 22deg @ 30psi

My timing map is for pussies then. I'm only running 15.5* of timing at 17psi of boost. At 4500rpm I think I"m running about 17*, but then it drops all the way to 7500rpm and it's at 15degrees.

Can you elaborate as to why you would never floor it with the pt67 turbo until 3600rpm?

[upgradedsupra]

My timing map is for pussies then. I'm only running 15.5* of timing at 17psi of boost. At 4500rpm I think I"m running about 17*, but then it drops all the way to 7500rpm and it's at 15degrees.

With lower boost, you generally have more conservative timing Jay. With race gas, more timing is added as stated.

[suprahero]

I misread his post. Now I'm not as big a puss as I had originally thought............:naughty:

[blackkarma]

nice quake bout time you broke that 600 threshold...had no doubt you would do it...by the end of the month i might just drop my own big number post...::w00t::

[quake]

My timing map is for pussies then. I'm only running 15.5* of timing at 17psi of boost. At 4500rpm I think I"m running about 17*, but then it drops all the way to 7500rpm and it's at 15degrees.

Can you elaborate as to why you would never floor it with the pt67 turbo until 3600rpm?

#1 i have a seperat map for the dyno than i do for the street.

keep in mind the fuel map wont be the same on the street as you have more air flow. For example i had an a/f of 11.1 on the street and the same map made 10.1 on the dyno. Now for timing i use the dyno to see what i can get away with on the street. I raise it slowly after getting the fuel map set. Then you can see if the power comes up or stays the same. When you raise the timing and the tq stays the same that is when you lower the timing back to your previous setting.

Now since i want the most safe power for my pump gas tune i run 93oct, and i run a peak of 16deg timing at 18 psi but this is on my setup. Now i am in New england and it can get pretty cold so the boost will go up, so at 19psi i lower timing to 14 and at 20 i think i am at about 12.

I also run a egt sensor and read my plugs. Don't try to raise up the timing on pump fuel that is the diffrence between a street car that goes 30k on 500rwhp and one that goes 2k

[quake]

nice quake bout time you broke that 600 threshold...had no doubt you would do it...by the end of the month i might just drop my own big number post...::w00t::

hurry up this build is at 13k now and i drive it daily beating the hell out of it from day one :icon_bigg

[quake]

My timing map is for pussies then. I'm only running 15.5* of timing at 17psi of boost. At 4500rpm I think I"m running about 17*, but then it drops all the way to 7500rpm and it's at 15degrees.

Can you elaborate as to why you would never floor it with the pt67 turbo until 3600rpm?

well the 67 hits hard about 4200 or so, so i i'm just playing around having fun then i would at 3600 but if you have a z06 in your sights i would hit it at 4200

[Tun_x]

nice work Quake !!!


Jason

[quake]

nice work Quake !!!


Jason

thanx man

[92nsx]

Nice numbers, any TC with that? It is going to be a beast on the street.

[WhtMa71]

Nice numbers! I have been wondering if there was anyone running Stinger with a 7m.

[cruzian7m]

That does it, i guess i will have to get some cams, the exhaust will have to come later. Nice numbers. 3 inch will have to do for now.

[suprafanatic]

how do you get away with running 22* timming? that seems rather high to me, i have mine set at 12*

[10secdream]

how do you get away with running 22* timming? that seems rather high to me, i have mine set at 12*

Race Gas.

[quake]

how do you get away with running 22* timming? that seems rather high to me, i have mine set at 12*

yes race gas, but how many psi are you running with 12 and what setup and octane?

[Zazzn]

nice dyno, seems rather odd that your power drops off so significantly at redline.

[suprafanatic]

yes race gas, but how many psi are you running with 12 and what setup and octane?

well on the dyno i run 110 octane turbo blue race gas.