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thesupragod
11-09-2008, 09:53 AM
so iim going to puut my machined 2j cams i my 1j last night.. one of the cam position pickup on the intake cam iw broken clean off. they have been sitting in the box he shipped them in until last night.

how important is the center cam pickup? will thw car run without it?

has anyone had this problem? how did you fix it? can i drill it and put a pin in it?

the tab wasnt in the box so i know he knnnew it was broke before he shipped it.

let me kow if you have any other ideas!!

i will upload a picture when i get home. im posting from my phone...

thanks,
Jon

suprastanger507mgte
11-09-2008, 12:58 PM
well its there for a reason and that is how the sensors pickup the cam movement. Your car may not get proper timing.

2yoduhJZ
11-09-2008, 01:13 PM
I have met Spaniard before at a local meet here in Florida, very nice guy, never had a problem with him. I picked up a set of 2JZ machined cams from him and installed them with no problem what so ever. I know that the pick-up on the cam itself has nothing to do with the machining process what so ever. I sincerely doubt that its Spaniards fault on this matter, cause his machining had nothing to do with even coming close to the cam position sensor. Remember, these are used cams machined to fit a 1JZ head. It may have been the previous MKIV owner that had a problem with the cam and thats why he sold it to Spaniard to begin with and he didnt see the issue. Furthermore, the camshaft is not spun on the lathe when machining takes place. I know Spaniard has gotten a bad rap, but he has helped me significantly and I believe your blaming the wrong person this time cause I dont see any relationship between the cam position sensor and his machining work. I'm very new to the forums and I dont want to make this post/thread about Spaniard, but just pointing out what I see here.

suprastanger507mgte
11-09-2008, 01:57 PM
I have met Spaniard before at a local meet here in Florida, very nice guy, never had a problem with him. I picked up a set of 2JZ machined cams from him and installed them with no problem what so ever. I know that the pick-up on the cam itself has nothing to do with the machining process what so ever. I sincerely doubt that its Spaniards fault on this matter, cause his machining had nothing to do with even coming close to the cam position sensor. Remember, these are used cams machined to fit a 1JZ head. It may have been the previous MKIV owner that had a problem with the cam and thats why he sold it to Spaniard to begin with and he didnt see the issue. Furthermore, the camshaft is not spun on the lathe when machining takes place. I know Spaniard has gotten a bad rap, but he has helped me significantly and I believe your blaming the wrong person this time cause I dont see any relationship between the cam position sensor and his machining work. I'm very new to the forums and I dont want to make this post/thread about Spaniard, but just pointing out what I see here.

I think you missed the point.

thesupragod
11-09-2008, 05:01 PM
You defiantly missed the point. The point being that its fairly obvious that the pickup is missing. yet he machined and sold them anyway... to me of course.


I included a crappy camera phone pic of the cam. the area circled in red is supposed to have a rectangular pickup... it doesnt. boo.

I was wondering if i could just drill the cam and install a dowel pin or something to that nature.

2yoduhJZ
11-09-2008, 06:10 PM
You defiantly missed the point. The point being that its fairly obvious that the pickup is missing. yet he machined and sold them anyway... to me of course.


I included a crappy camera phone pic of the cam. the area circled in red is supposed to have a rectangular pickup... it doesnt. boo.

I was wondering if i could just drill the cam and install a dowel pin or something to that nature.

My apologies. But yes, one can be attached successfully for a fair price.

thesupragod
11-09-2008, 08:09 PM
well, how should i go about it? Should i grind the surface flat... then try to reattach a piece that is exactly like the pickup? or just install a dowel? in the center or offset at the beginning of the rotation?

suprastanger507mgte
11-09-2008, 11:34 PM
well, how should i go about it? Should i grind the surface flat... then try to reattach a piece that is exactly like the pickup? or just install a dowel? in the center or offset at the beginning of the rotation?

Man that is something real hard to recomend. I personally don't know how these camshafts are balanced as a little too much or too little weight can throw balance on rotating things off. If the weight is not an issue, then I'd say have a similar amount of metal added/welded on rather than adding a dowel pin which can break off and mess the engine up.
Hopefully somone more well versed in this area can chime in and offer better advice.

Bigzavs
11-09-2008, 11:51 PM
I'm about to do this same fix to a set of cams. you will need to clean the surface very well and then have a professional TIG welder put an ample amount of material on using a Silica Bronze filler rod, then take it to a machine shop and have it machined back into the same dimensions as the stock pickup

thesupragod
11-10-2008, 12:33 AM
woah... thanks for the response. I guess i know what i have to do then!

THanks!

thesupragod
11-10-2008, 01:19 PM
bronze isnt a Ferris metal, the pickup would recognize that?

figgie
11-10-2008, 07:28 PM
I have met Spaniard before at a local meet here in Florida, very nice guy, never had a problem with him. I picked up a set of 2JZ machined cams from him and installed them with no problem what so ever. I know that the pick-up on the cam itself has nothing to do with the machining process what so ever. I sincerely doubt that its Spaniards fault on this matter, cause his machining had nothing to do with even coming close to the cam position sensor. Remember, these are used cams machined to fit a 1JZ head. It may have been the previous MKIV owner that had a problem with the cam and thats why he sold it to Spaniard to begin with and he didnt see the issue. Furthermore, the camshaft is not spun on the lathe when machining takes place. I know Spaniard has gotten a bad rap, but he has helped me significantly and I believe your blaming the wrong person this time cause I dont see any relationship between the cam position sensor and his machining work. I'm very new to the forums and I dont want to make this post/thread about Spaniard, but just pointing out what I see here.


My apologies. But yes, one can be attached successfully for a fair price.

Congratulations!?!?

Now what does your dealings have to do with Thesupragods current dealing? Nothing. The stock market says t best. Past performance is not an indication for future performance. In the end, a business's worth is not how they treat thier customers when things went kosher, it is how they clean up thier fuck ups.

Besy Buy, Target, Walmart, Small mom and pop shops are all measured how they rectify thier messups. Incorrectly machinging or selling parts with missing items is not acceptable and more so if they do not answer or return calls. That is called bullshit.


bronze isnt a Ferris metal, the pickup would recognize that?

Bronze is not a FERROUS metal so it will not affect a mangetic fields. Need Iron or Steel in there OR make a chopper wheel and attach it to the front of the cam pulleys. UpgradedSupra did that and can be seen in one of his videos.

thesupragod
11-10-2008, 11:43 PM
Turns out that the machinist that i took it to is going to drill and tap it, and machine the head of a bolt to match the pickup. And all for only $120! Thanks spaniard your the best!

alloyguitar
11-10-2008, 11:53 PM
...he should've fixed his mistake, in my opinion anyway, but if I recall correctly he's not in the best of favor with the supra community at the moment...

...again, I could be wrong.

Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE
11-11-2008, 05:07 AM
Hey I have a solution maybe ? If you could promise me these will be machined to fit and the only problem is the middle pu and not the back one I could pick them up! Because I had my middle CAS sealed off because my center tap on my fuel rail interfiered with it so if thats the only defect for a fair price ill take them off your hand my setup uses a standalone so i dont use the center signal.

Otherwise I would think they are useless because balancing proper alingment and the possibility this might come off on you inside the engine which would be worse then buying another set for 80-100 because your 1jz long block is prob more like around ~1000

Allthough i dont know if i should even use them with a missing chunk of metal it may throw the balancing off these will rev to 9000rpms after all, wait i take that back 4500 lol cams go half the speed as the crank.

thesupragod
11-11-2008, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the offer, but they are at the machinist's now getting repaired. He guaranteed that they would not come apart, and he is going to re-balance and check the straightness of the cams before i get it back!

thesupragod
11-14-2008, 10:29 PM
And it turns out that the cam seal area of the cam didnt get machined. DAMNIT!

honestabe
11-15-2008, 12:07 AM
Spaniard has gotten banned permanently.

Ban Date
09-20-2008
Lift Date
Never
Ban Reason
I'm tired of people bitching about you taking thier money and then ignoring them. We don't need people like you. You're a lowlife. We don't need lowlifes.
Banned by
Supracentral


I too have a set of Spaniard cams and I'm having them inspected before they go near my motor Jon.

Zerocool
11-15-2008, 05:49 PM
I think when it comes to cams Im just going to put up the money for some crowers or HKS cams...

honestabe
11-15-2008, 06:39 PM
It's official, Spaniard fucked me over too. He sold me a set of untouched cams for the price of ground cams. SOB!!! Now I have to have a local cam grinder do what I paid that fucker to do.

Adam

honestabe
11-16-2008, 12:14 AM
PM sent to thesupragod with Jonathon "Spaniard" 's number.

honestabe
11-16-2008, 12:24 AM
I just got off the phone with Spaniard and he is willing to pay for the repairs to our cams. He sounds very sorry for the messed up sets of cams and is willing to make ammends. Just call him. If anybody needs his number PM me. I also have his current email address.

Adam

2yoduhJZ
11-16-2008, 12:52 AM
I just got off the phone with Spaniard and he is willing to pay for the repairs to our cams. He sounds very sorry for the messed up sets of cams and is willing to make ammends. Just call him. If anybody needs his number PM me. I also have his current email address.

Adam

I too just got off the phone with him. We talk to one another on a day to day basis, so its common to get the late night phone call from him. Jonathan has helped me a ton with my MKIII and MKIV, he is a very knowledgeable guy and definitely knows his stuff.

In any case, he discussed with me about honestabe and his cams. I know Jonathan has sold 62 pairs, with like three pairs messed up. He feels very sorry about all this. Jonathan has given me permission to be his personal consulate to the forums on his behalf. He really wants to take care of anyone who has a problem with anything that he has sold. Whats nice is that Jonathan has a full record of everything he has ever sold. For how much, from where, to who, and what tracking number with notes on the sale. So for those of you that want some free money, it's just not going to happen. He is apologetic about what has happened and hopes everyone can get past everything that has happened. While his reputation on the forums has been tarnished, he doesnt want it to stay that way. I think Honestabe can attest to how frank he was on the phone and how helpful he tried to be to him. He will no doubt take care of Honestabe.

Furthermore, he told me that he did get an email from, "thesupragod" and emailed him back about a week ago, asking him to call Jonathan. Jonathan never got a call or a voicemail, and says he has no problem in talking to supragod so that they can get on the same page. Jonathan vouches to abide by the admins request not to come back onto the forums, so dont think he is going to get back on with a different screen name or to use mine while it is easy to do so. My screen name is very new and I dont need anyone using my name when I plan to do some good on here. I will be more than happy to take anyone's PM and relate it to him so that he can handle everyone on a case by case basis.

Thank you.

Randy

suprace
11-16-2008, 01:03 AM
i got a cams from him couple of months ago and the journal was cracked and one was not machined. so i got it repaired and remachined. he told me he will send some money but never did. he told me this at sf last month. here's what he said and still waiting.

"Yo. Been very busy. I had a friend alert me of your post. Ouch! That hurts having a bad rap now on SF. Dont get me wrong, SM has banned me but some guy is trying to fucking scam me and screw me over, said I never sent him some cams. Bull shit. I sent everyone everything. I dont scam. I even have proof of his freaking shipping. I'm not standing for that shit. I'm done with SM. I DONT want to do you wrong, since I gave you my word.

Since you said it would be cool to get you a set of 2JZ-GTE USDM injectors, I'll pay you the cost of the used set you can find on the forums. Market value at $130. Is that cool? I hope you can clear my name at least put an end to that thread for me. That is all.

Let me know. Give me your paypal address to send the money to.

that message was since 9/25/2008.
i sent him paypal request but never receive the money. please tell him i'm still waiting.

honestabe
11-16-2008, 01:24 AM
We'll see what happens. Considering it took 6 weeks to get my cams that weren't machined, I'm skeptical.

2yoduhJZ
11-16-2008, 02:04 AM
suprace,
No doubt. I will let him know and find out whats the deal. PM me so that I can get your info and get this figured out with him tomorrow. Will get back to you, just PM me, so we dont congest the thread and figure out your situation.


We'll see what happens. Considering it took 6 weeks to get my cams that weren't machined, I'm skeptical.

Well, I will put my name on it and when you DO get your situation resolved, it would be nice that you post that it was taken care of so there are no open loose ends and that he did hold his word. He has been called a scammer and scammers dont try to fix shit after the deal. So I suggest you give him this last chance so he can fix his name at least. Most people dont get a recourse when they have been un-justly done, so its good that everyone is talking and no one is wigging out and name calling. I hope to keep this thread functional and professional on his behalf. He is a good friend and has yet to do me wrong. Just keep me posted Honestabe or contact Jonathan directly as you already have his email.

honestabe
11-16-2008, 02:34 AM
I will update as things happen. I give people the benefit of the doubt, so I really hope he comes through.

thesupragod
11-16-2008, 10:02 PM
I spoke with Jonathon "Spaniard" today, and is a very nice person to speak with. The cam seal journal is at the machine shop now getting re ground, and when i get it back with the bill, Jonathon said that he would reimburse me for the expense's that i have had with my cams! We will see what happens, but I have my reservations.

thesupragod
12-14-2008, 09:15 PM
O.K. Now im really pissed!!!!

I was lead on by both spaniard (Jonathan) and Honestabe into thinking that i will be issued a refund for the machine work i had to have done. This has been A MONTH AGO!!!!! I swear, giving people the runaround is FUCKING BULLSHIT!

Ive called Jonathon several time, just got his answering machine, no return call no nothing!

Honestabe, if you read this... check your boy.

suprahero
12-14-2008, 09:19 PM
sounds like he's more 2youda's boy instead of Abe's, but I haven't read the whole thread in a while. I've forgotten who did what to whom. Good luck. We also have a dispute section in here that you can take this up with.

honestabe
12-14-2008, 11:22 PM
Spaniard ain't my boy. I need to pick the cams up from the machine shop and send him the bill (of course after I pay the bill myself). Oddly enough Spaniard called me yesterday to see if I had a total that he owes me. I'll PM you Spaniard's number again thesupragod.

Adam

suprace
12-15-2008, 02:03 AM
this is what i got from 2yoduhjz. he was supposed to pay me last week. i pm'ed 2yoduhjz and did not respond yet. not sure what's going to happen. he still haven't change. he say things and never happens. he got to pay me this week.

Sorry been away for a while doing the holiday thing with family, Jonathan as well. I spoke to him and he will pay you by Wed. next week at maximum. Reason being he will be back from Chicago and able to give me the money cash, cause his Paypal account wont let him send any money due to an expired credit card. I know its been since July, but we are here together on this on the forums to clear this up. People dont get a lot of recourse and I'm glad, so is Jonathan the he will be able to take care of this.

Thank you.

honestabe
12-16-2008, 11:18 PM
I just got the bill from the the cam grinder, only $40. I just left a message on Spaniard's cell as well as sending a message to his buddy 2yoduhjz to pass on the same message. Hopefully I will get lucky and get paid quickly.

Adam

Jostar
12-17-2008, 06:16 PM
I just got the bill from the the cam grinder, only $40. I just left a message on Spaniard's cell as well as sending a message to his buddy 2yoduhjz to pass on the same message. Hopefully I will get lucky and get paid quickly.

Adam

good luck....

honestabe
01-03-2009, 12:42 AM
Looks like the bastard screwed me over too. Atleast I'm only out of pocket $40. My freshly machined cams are back in my posession and ready to be put in.

bobiseverywhere
01-04-2009, 02:23 PM
I am truly saddened to see this is still going on and an issue. I hope all will work out for you guys

thesupragod
01-05-2009, 02:02 PM
yep. Im pissed. Sorry abe, i just pm'd you before i saw this post has made its way back to the top of the page.

Is there anyone in his area that could confront him about this?

suprace
01-08-2009, 12:22 AM
2yoduhjz pm'd me last month saying that the guy (forgot his name) will pay me. he never did. i spent 160 to repair the crack seal journal and machine both cams and shipping. i have this issue with him since august i guess.....

honestabe
01-08-2009, 02:19 AM
You guys will never believe it. Spaniard just paid me. He just got off the plane from Canada apparently. I'm sending him the list of all the people he still owes.

Adam

honestabe
01-09-2009, 04:56 PM
I recind my motion to ban 2yoduhjz. PM's sent

alloyguitar
01-09-2009, 05:20 PM
better late than never, I guess.

honestabe
01-09-2009, 09:21 PM
That's for damn sure!

Frankenstien
01-11-2009, 01:47 AM
Everyone's been paid back now?

suprace
01-15-2009, 08:34 PM
i tried calling spaniard but he never answers his phone.

honestabe
01-16-2009, 10:15 PM
suprace has been paid.

suprace
01-17-2009, 01:10 AM
yup i just got paid this afternoon. he seems like a cool guy. he truly apologized to me and i forgive him. i will give him another chance to be in supramania again. i guess he just had a bad year.

alloyguitar
01-17-2009, 01:35 AM
It's good to see that this is being rectified.

honestabe
01-17-2009, 02:16 AM
Besides thesupragod, does Jonathon owe anybody else? He's using me to keep in contact with SM. He had a really good track record until April last year, that's when everything went to hell for him. I vote we give him 1 more chance. Mike, what do you say?

2yoduhJZ
01-17-2009, 05:37 AM
Besides thesupragod, does Jonathon owe anybody else? He's using me to keep in contact with SM. He had a really good track record until April last year, that's when everything went to hell for him. I vote we give him 1 more chance. Mike, what do you say?

Hey guys. I'm really sorry about disappearing as well. I had the winter break off and frankly didnt come back till about two day ago! I am from Cuba, so when I was out there. No internet or nothing! Freaking third-world countries. haha. In any case, I'm glad that Jonathan was able to start taking care of this. I have to admit, I had my doubts on the guy, but he has never done me any wrongs so I was sure of him. Glad to hear people are getting paid.

I did speak to him yesterday night (1-16-09), and he was glad to hear from me. Jonathan has been strong about staying off the boards and thats why he didnt get back on with a user name of any sort to fix things. While it did you guys more harm waiting for someone to call him, he just didnt want to sign-up on SM again out of shear respect for the admins decision to ban him. He did say he had one more person to pay and said he would do it in the morning cause he was reformatting his computer. Jonathan is at a total of over $600 given back to three people from this thread plus two others that stepped forward via email with him and he took care of it personally, and I can vouch for this fact cause I saw his Paypal account proving so last night. In any case, glad to hear that honestabe was able to step in to see if there was anyone else left out. I appreciate it and so does Jonathan.

Yes, Jonathan has came back to fix his name and to fix the wrongs he has done in the past through me. Going back to his past, he has a very good iTrader rating with no negative feedback and was a member on the forums for a very long time without issues. For some reason or another everything fell apart for him in specifically 2008. A lot of people knew or know him still and has followed the progression of his MKIII through the years. I'm not saying what he did was right, but a lot of guys dont come back and try to fix their pasts. Suprace is right, Jonathan is a bad ass guy to talk to or to even know him. Here in Daytona (he goes to school down here), he helps out all his sport compact club members with anything car related and has become some what of an expert on Toyota and Honda modification helping out the freshman and sophomore students with their cars and academics in some cases.

While he respects any decision or opinions made by his peers (admins) and/or fellow Supramania members, he requests something. He would like to come back to Supramania if possible but without selling rights. Just so that he can be a part of the community again, it would mean a lot to him he has said and what ever SM would decide he would respect whole heartedly. So Honestabe, thank you for the gesture of a possibility of a come back. He asks humbly from everyone if this is possible?

Thank you.

blindkiller85
01-17-2009, 08:33 AM
I'm not anywhere near the point of being an active member here on supramania, but I'm on SF. I just don't know enough people here to troll these forums.

I met Jonathan about a year ago when I first got my MKIV. Great guy to hang out with, talk to and do any sort of business from my experience.

My only criticism on him, and it goes for me as well, is it did take him a while to pay me back on a part I gave him. But I did not set a time limit on when he could pay me back, I just simply said give it to me when you can. He did, with no problems and an apology. But like I said, it goes for myself as well because I never put a limit on a time scale and he still apologized.

I can fully agree with 2yoduhJZ about his uncanny ability to help anyone that he knows in any way that he can. He will take any time that he has rather than do what he wants to help you. He enjoys helping other people with their cars, and most of us do. Well, except for me because I've got a fucked up arm. But I'll get the wrench for you! lol

Starting to get off track, and getting back on it now. As far as what happened in 2008. The past is the past but Jonathan is trying to rectify it all to any extent possible. Paying back people and not taking back said parts; taking back parts and making sure the parts that he sold were perfect for whomever. I've had and heard many discussions on this topic and harassed him relentlessly about it. He took it to heart from everyone here and everyone that knows him and has talked to him about it in person to know that its not the route he wants to go with anyone either in person or via supramania. That's just not the person he is in my mind.

As far as letting him back on supramania. I'll vouch for sure and I say let him get back on here, and have the admins either completely revoke, or monitor to great length, his ability to sell anything big or small. To my knowledge I don't believe he cares to sell anything because of this fiasco, so either way would seem fine in my mind and what I know about him and his standpoint.

~Toodles

thesupragod
01-18-2009, 01:58 AM
I have been officially paid! Im so happy he didnt just screw everyone over! Thanks spaniard, and 2yoduhJZ for relaying messages!

honestabe
01-18-2009, 02:25 PM
So, who all is with me on giving Spaniard another chance? Even if it's without selling priveleges. He wants to be apart of the community again, and would rather sell on E-Bay now just as a precaution.

fonz87
01-18-2009, 05:23 PM
I've known jonathon for a half a year now and i've never ever had any problems with him what so ever, he's a very nice person to talk to and also hang out with. when i first met him, i ask him if he can help me with my car and the next day, he came by with a fuel dampener he brought from his house and helped me installed it, A lot of people think he's a scammer just cause of all the stuff that had happen in the past but he's no scammer nor is he a bad person. If he had been a scammer, he won't have contacted all the people who had problems with the stuff and paid everyone who needed to be paid. Also he didn't come back with a different name on this forums. I can vouch for him to come back to this forums and i m sure a lot of people feel the same way i do. He has given a lot to this forum in the past with his knowledge of cars and helping others, and i m pretty sure he will continue to do the same if given another chance. I hope the admins see that everyone here feels different about him and can vouch for him to come back.

thank you.

honestabe
01-18-2009, 05:58 PM
I've posted up a poll asking for Spaniard to be allowed back, please go to the thread and enter your response. Here's the link.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87254

Supracentral
01-19-2009, 01:36 PM
Spaniards access to SM has been restored.