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mistermatt516
October 23rd, 2005, 07:45 PM
Hi all, Been lurking for some time. I dont know where to start looking. She wants to take off...but as soon as the boost hits postive the car lurches and stalls...I likely wont be doin the work myself...but would love info so i can talk to the mech....thanks...

PS
Im still looking for a reliable mech on long island if anyone knows one that knows these cars.....thanks....

Matt

mkiiSupraMan18
October 23rd, 2005, 08:33 PM
codes?

sounds like code 52...

MDCmotorsports
October 23rd, 2005, 08:40 PM
Turbo?

Yes?

B
O
O
S
T

L
E
A
K

B double O to the S to the T on my L to the E on my A then K.

Boost leak.

mistermatt516
October 23rd, 2005, 09:26 PM
thanks guys....whats a code 52?
please excuse my naivte' but how would i go about looking for the leak being that the car seems to need to be in gear? just thought i would look for it myself before getting reammed by a mech....

aye mate
October 23rd, 2005, 09:39 PM
Turbo?

Yes?

B
O
O
S
T

L
E
A
K

B double O to the S to the T on my L to the E on my A then K.

Boost leak.

W to the E to the R to the D

GrimJack
October 23rd, 2005, 10:11 PM
Boost leak can be found by inspecting the intercooler pipes, more often than not there are several by now - the accordian pipe that feeds air to the turbo usually cracks, as does the rubber pipe off the compressor side of the turbo and the rubber coupler between the 3000 pipe and the throttle body.

mistermatt516
October 23rd, 2005, 10:36 PM
thats exactly the kind of things i needed to know...thanks again....!

IHI-RHC7
October 24th, 2005, 10:18 AM
Check the plastic hard pipe that goes through the fender as well.
Does your check engine light come on? If so it could be bas knock sensor wiring, or a bad AFM.

mistermatt516
October 24th, 2005, 03:39 PM
Check the plastic hard pipe that goes through the fender as well.
Does your check engine light come on? If so it could be bas knock sensor wiring, or a bad AFM.

yes the check engine light comes on....have no idea what those things you just said were....lol...but thanks

GrimJack
October 24th, 2005, 03:47 PM
If your CEL (Check Engine Light) comes on, then you need to pull your codes and tell us what it says.

Follow these instructions: http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/techtip/engineerrorcodes.html

chevyeater
October 24th, 2005, 08:04 PM
Where on Long Island? I may be able to take a look if you are local...

mistermatt516
October 24th, 2005, 09:36 PM
Where on Long Island? I may be able to take a look if you are local...

Nassau County...Hicksville to be exact...that would be awesome....I am here in texas until Sat nov12th...Then i'll be fixing the car and driving it back down here....
where on the island are you?

kapkaniMD
May 28th, 2007, 09:25 AM
sorry to open this thread again, but I am having the same problem, I am wondering if the problem with this car was ever found. Thanks

Doward
May 28th, 2007, 10:09 AM
Kap, the culprit 9/10 times is a severe boost leak. Do a search for 'boost leak detector' - you should be able to check for any leaks.

For that matter, if you find you need new IC pipes, I've got a complete set for sale, for dirt cheap. ;)

bigaaron
May 28th, 2007, 10:14 AM
I don't think this one is a boost leak at all guys, the way he explained it, the first thing I would look at is the fuel pump relay. When boost rises the relay switches off the resistor and switches 12v directly to the pump. If the relay has a bad contact it will do exactly what he explained, it will stall as soon as there is any boost pressure. You may not get a code for that either, becuase you just loose fuel pressure, and there is no monitor for that in the stock setup. What I do on my own cars is replace the old stock relay with a Bosch 30amp relay. I have also fixed this issue on several customer cars.

Doward
May 28th, 2007, 10:35 AM
Oh, good one Aaron - that is a possibility. I had the same problem when I found out the IC hose off the turbo was sporting a split about 5" long.

kapkaniMD
May 28th, 2007, 01:27 PM
Kap, the culprit 9/10 times is a severe boost leak. Do a search for 'boost leak detector' - you should be able to check for any leaks.

For that matter, if you find you need new IC pipes, I've got a complete set for sale, for dirt cheap. ;)

Thanks for the hint, I will check into it, however I have all metal IC pipes so it would have to be a joint or something.

Also thanks for the heads up on the relay, I actually read that on another post and plan on looking into that as well. Is there a specific kind of bosch relay I need to get or just the one that they sell at like discount auto.

mistermatt516
May 29th, 2007, 05:58 PM
Thanks for the hint, I will check into it, however I have all metal IC pipes so it would have to be a joint or something.

Also thanks for the heads up on the relay, I actually read that on another post and plan on looking into that as well. Is there a specific kind of bosch relay I need to get or just the one that they sell at like discount auto.
hey all..sending this from my phone hope it goes thru....it turned out to be a leask in the HKS tee...as well as a shitty knock sensor....

Burntz
May 29th, 2007, 09:29 PM
haha, 2 years later you tell us :)

kapkaniMD
May 30th, 2007, 09:42 AM
When boost rises the relay switches off the resistor and switches 12v directly to the pump. If the relay has a bad contact it will do exactly what he explained, it will stall as soon as there is any boost pressure. You may not get a code for that either, becuase you just loose fuel pressure, and there is no monitor for that in the stock setup. What I do on my own cars is replace the old stock relay with a Bosch 30amp relay. I have also fixed this issue on several customer cars.

Hey man, would you happen to be able to give me a quick instruction on the install if I get the bosch 30amp relay, I know how it works i just need to know which wires are which(ie which one is power, switch, etc..) Thanks

also, the dealership one is like $67 and autozone has one that is $60 but it doesnt look anything like a regular relay, http://www.autozone.com/R,APP1271106/vehicleId,1618501/initialAction,partProductDetail/store,1202/partType,01258/shopping/partProductDetail.htm , is the bosch one still the way to go??

jetjock
May 30th, 2007, 09:52 AM
While I'm with Aaron on the possible cause (a few months ago I repaired a car that had the same symptoms with the same cause) if I were you I'd test it first. A quick way of doing that is to jump the FP terminal in the diagnostic block and drive the car. If the problem remains it's not the relay. That said see isnms's post in the General Section on delayed cranking for the standard Bosch relay pinout. See the online EWD for wiring. Bosch will do the job but since so many people jump them you could probably get a factory relay cheap in the WTB section. I MacGyvered the one I fixed with a spring from a ball point pen. Not something I'd do on my own car but last I heard it was still working fine. I'd test it first though. From what I've read your car is heavily modded and it could be lots of other things.

mattjk
May 30th, 2007, 10:05 AM
Doesn't sound like boost leak, sounds more like you're in limp home mode.

Learn how to check codes and post back here.

I had this exact problem in my MR2 turbo. As soon as I got into boost, the car would stall. It was a busted knock sensor.

mattjk
May 30th, 2007, 11:11 AM
hey all..sending this from my phone hope it goes thru....it turned out to be a leask in the HKS tee...as well as a shitty knock sensor....


lol just saw this post. knock sensor was bad?

kapkaniMD
May 30th, 2007, 11:30 AM
While I'm with Aaron on the possible cause (a few months ago I repaired a car that the same symptoms with the same cause) if I were you I'd test it first. A quick way of doing that is to jump the FP terminal in the diagnostic block and drive the car. If the problem remains it's not the relay. That said see isnms's post in the General Section on delayed cranking for the standard Bosch relay pinout. See the online EWD for wiring. Bosch will do the job but since so many people jump them you could probably get a a factory relay cheap in the WTB section. I MacGyvered the one I fixed with a spring from a ball point pen. Not something I'd do on my own car but last I heard it was still working fine. I'd test it first though. From what I've read your car is heavily modded and it could be lots of other things.

Will do, just if you could tell me which terminals I am jumping. Also if it works, and said that most people do it. Is it ok to just run the car with the terminals jumped????? Also since people are saying they had a knock sensor problem, is there a way to test that as well? THanks for all the replies

bigaaron
May 30th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Even if you find a used relay it's still 16+ years old, that's why if it is in question I just replace it with a Bosch, because the operation of that relay is critical. They get moisture inside (usually from pressure washing) and can become intermittent.

starscream5000
May 30th, 2007, 12:36 PM
Don't run the car with the terminals jumped all the time. Take you time and get the part if it is indeed your problem. If Toyota wanted the terminal to be jumpered all the time, it would have been...

jetjock
May 30th, 2007, 01:07 PM
Aaron has a point. It's the same as with a used TPS. Used is questionable. That said mine is 20 years old ago and zero problems but everything on my engine is corrosion free. It's a crap shoot depending where the car was driven, how it was maintained, on and on. I'd go new OEM if it tests out bad but I'm anal about keeping my cars as close to original as possible other than power upgrades.

SS: I agree he should do it only for testing but how is leaving the jumper in any different from the 12 volt mod? Imo both are dumb on a stock engine but they're electrically the same thing.

starscream5000
May 30th, 2007, 01:21 PM
Is that what the 12 volt mod is? I've never looked it up as I don't have an aftermarket fuel pump :dunno:

jetjock
May 30th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Both place 12 volts on the pump full time. I still say he should test it by jumping the block. The way I check pumps is to put a current meter in place of the jumper. You can tell a lot about the health of a pump and it's circuit by doing that. Monitoring fuel pressure during a snap throttle test will also show fuel system problems although not necessarily this one. If it's really the relay boosting with the block jumped will confirm it because the symptom will disappear.

bigaaron
May 30th, 2007, 02:24 PM
I totally agree, the proper way to diagnose it is to jumper the fp to b+ in diagnostic connector. I was putting the cart before the horse by giving a fix without explaining how to figure out if it needs fixin' first.

kapkaniMD
May 30th, 2007, 02:28 PM
Even if you find a used relay it's still 16+ years old, that's why if it is in question I just replace it with a Bosch, because the operation of that relay is critical. They get moisture inside (usually from pressure washing) and can become intermittent.

could you give me the connection match up for the bosch 30A, also where do you get a bosch relay at, I picked up a similar one at radio shack is that basically the same

jetjock
May 30th, 2007, 02:59 PM
Jeez, I find it amazing you're in med school. Assuming you finish I hope you tell us where you're going to practice so I can stay as far away from there as possible. If Aaron wants to babysit your gluteus maximus fine but unless you stick a freaking jumper in the diag block between FP and B+ then go boost the car and see if the problem goes away you won't get another peep out of me.

kapkaniMD
May 30th, 2007, 04:02 PM
Jeez, I find it amazing you're in med school. Assuming you finish I hope you tell us where you're going to practice so I can stay as far away from there as possible. If Aaron wants to babysit your gluteus maximus fine but unless you stick a freaking jumper in the diag block between FP and B+ then go boost the car and see if the problem goes away you won't get another peep out of me.

you seem to be the resident asshole on this forum, seriously, how many people have to tell you that, unless you have some input on somebody's problem then just shut up. I dont work on the car everyday, i seem to have more important things to do than that. SO I like to have everything ready for when I do work on it instead of just waiting around on the internet for people to respond. Seriously, you answered the question, which i appreciate, now find something else better to do with your time then sit on a website and harass people

p.s. we cant all be supra electrical experts that sit on the internet and post on websites, I'll be sure to let you know where I am practicing so you can drive by and wave

mattjk
May 30th, 2007, 04:11 PM
yeah, this is a great place to come for help. Welcome!

jetjock
May 30th, 2007, 04:33 PM
Uh, and I'm supposed to feel what exactly? Sure, I'm the resident asshole. Kind of like it that way too. The management and others here are free to vote me off the island any time they like. Even the punk fat Asian kid gets a vote.

I was trying to save you both work and cash (since you've whined about how little of both you have) but what really irks me is when people I try and help don't listen. You think I don't have better things to do? I'm here because I work very little making more than you'll see slaving 100 hours/week in some residency. You're right though, in that I shouldn't be wasting time on morons and frankly you come across as one in every thread you've made. Diagnostic, listening, and critical thinking skills all suck. Based on that you'll make a great MD. Ah well. I tried, as did others. It'll be my pleasure watching you flounder from here on.

Aspec
May 30th, 2007, 04:41 PM
:biglaugh:

I hope you won't be too upset if I'm the first to use your quote in my sig cuz I still luv ya.:love:





:rofl:

mattjk
May 30th, 2007, 04:42 PM
Yay! When is the voting? I'm ready!

Mr.PFloyd
May 30th, 2007, 04:44 PM
wow this thread got ugly fast.... way to go all of you...

mattjk
May 30th, 2007, 04:46 PM
wow this thread got ugly fast.... way to go all of you...
shut up, hippy! let the old guy pick on the md student. LOL

jetjock
May 30th, 2007, 04:47 PM
Ugly? Lol. Like many you don't get it: it's the internet. Means squat, zip, zero, nada ;)

Aspec
May 30th, 2007, 04:52 PM
shut up, hippy! let the old guy pick on the md student. LOL



Ugly? Lol. Like many you don't get it: it's the internet. Means squat, zip, zero, nada ;)


:biglaugh:

LOL, I think I may have wet myself.

kapkaniMD
May 30th, 2007, 07:40 PM
I was trying to save you both work and cash (since you've whined about how little of both you have) but what really irks me is when people I try and help don't listen. You think I don't have better things to do? I'm here because I work very little making more than you'll see slaving 100 hours/week in some residency. Diagnostic, listening, and critical thinking skills all suck. Based on that you'll make a great MD. Ah well. I tried, as did others. It'll be my pleasure watching you flounder from here on.

All you seem to do is just make a bigger ass out of yourself with every post like this you make. I've listened to everything said on these threads regarding the car, if you can't read my last post, I like to have things ready before I start working instead of just getting no where and having to stop and figure something else out. You might make more money than me during my residency, but a bartender can do that. I highly doubt you will ever see me on a car site asking for help once im finished though, since if I have problems with a car after that I will just buy a new one. Oh, and I guarantee you I have more diagnostic, listening, and critical thinking skills than you in my left nut. You think your smart but all you've proven is you know something about the electrical system of a 15 y/o car and that ur an asswhole that sits on the internet alot. There is nothing in this world that can make me 'flounder' over something, I use this site for quick and proven information so I don't have to waist my time working on a 15 y/o car that I just work on for fun. :biggrinki Oh and I don't complain about not having money, I complain on putting more money than I have to in an old car that I am just going to sell anyway. I think you are way out of perspective when your tiny mind is judging me from a computer screen.

johnathan1
May 31st, 2007, 12:36 AM
Even the punk fat Asian kid gets a vote.



What the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you have to resort to name-calling? Don't you think that's a bit childish? Maybe it's just to hide your insecurities and make you feel better about yourself by talking down to others??


I'm here because I work very little making more than you'll see slaving 100 hours/week in some residency.

And why would you talk down like that to a medical student, he could one day save your life.

csr ma71
May 31st, 2007, 12:55 AM
This does it. I'm going to go to Iraq, get a limb blown off, come back here and say that you can't argue with me over Supra knowledge because I'm a war vet.

starscream5000
May 31st, 2007, 05:39 AM
JJ has clearly told you what you need to do FIRST before you go out and spend more money on something that you may not need. Diag jumper to test fuel system = FREE. Going out and buying parts that you don't know are bad yet = NOT FREE.

kapkaniMD
May 31st, 2007, 08:24 AM
JJ has clearly told you what you need to do FIRST before you go out and spend more money on something that you may not need. DAG jumper to test fuel system = FREE. Going out and buying parts that you don't know are bad yet = NOT FREE.
I am planning on doing the diag. jump as soon as I work on the car, but I don't mind spending the $6 on a new bosch relay so I don't have to run back and forth to the store when I start working. I like to have things planned out before I jump into it. I was just looking for the factory wire setup so that if I were to use the bosch relay I wouldn't have to jump right back on line the day I am working on it and hope someone that knows is reading. I'm sure I could figure it out on my own, but why waste my time when someone on here that has done it before could give me a 30 sec answer. I only work on this car about 1 day a week, if that. I'm definitely not here to argue, if no one wants to tell me before I go try the jump, then fine. I just don't take insults lightly when they are way out of line.

jetjock
May 31st, 2007, 10:40 AM
What the fuck is wrong with you?


Nice try but I'm not going to get sucked into arguing with some snot-nosed kid. Your chubby little buddy is what he is. Get over it. As for our med student you must be joking. I'll let him treat me when he adds spelling to those left nut skills. Makes me wonder when they started letting illiterates into med school...

johnathan1
May 31st, 2007, 05:30 PM
Nice try but I'm not going to get sucked into arguing with some snot-nosed kid. Your chubby little buddy is what he is. Get over it. As for our med student you must be joking. I'll let him treat me when he adds spelling to those left nut skills. Makes me wonder when they started letting illiterates into med school...

Why did you delete your post? Don't you want everyone to see your wonderful ability to be a dick?

One word for you: Douchebag.

These links should help you:

http://www.paxil.com/

http://www.mentalhealthhelpline.com/

Burntz
May 31st, 2007, 05:55 PM
lmao

mattjk
May 31st, 2007, 06:15 PM
Ugly? Lol. Like many you don't get it: it's the internet. Means squat, zip, zero, nada ;)


Nice try but I'm not going to get sucked into arguing with some snot-nosed kid. Your chubby little buddy is what he is. Get over it. As for our med student you must be joking. I'll let him treat me when he adds spelling to those left nut skills. Makes me wonder when they started letting illiterates into med school...

LOL. What a joke of a man you are. First you say you don't care, but you edited your post no less than 3 times.

Your first post you called people childish, then you post "Nice try but I'm not going to get sucked into arguing with some snot nosed kid."

and then you add "Your chubby little buddy is what he is. Get over it. As for our med student you must be joking. I'll let him treat me when he adds spelling to those left nut skills. Makes me wonder when they started letting illiterates into med school..."

boy... sure looks like you don't care :icon_conf

The reason the insults you say don't bother me anymore, is because I've come to see what a pathetic, psycho of a small little man you are. You actually get off on belittling people on the internet. Did your mom or dad not show you enough affection as a little child? Pulled one too many wings off of butterflies? :runaway:

Yeah, we've all read your unoriginal banter before... let's see, lately we have "I have no dog in this fight", and then "I've forgotten more about xxxx than you know", and then "It'll be my pleasure watching you flounder from here on."

and many more prized jewels , I'll let people see for themselves: http://www.supramania.com/forums/search.php?searchid=721829

Oh yeah, I eagerly await your insult-filled, 10 paragraph long PM you'll send me in about 10 minutes, detailing how you so much smarter you are, how much money you have, how my life sucks, how much info you've forgotten, etc, etc... just like the one you sent to bigaaron this afternoon. LOL. Yes, we talk. WE are actually friends, and we all share one thing in common; we think you are a douchebag, PERIOD. :biglaugh:

So PLEASE send that pm to me so I may share with everyone. :asshole:

bigaaron
May 31st, 2007, 07:09 PM
JetJock came up with a new one today:

I couldn't care less about getting respect from what's primarily a cluster fuck of adolescents whose lives revolve around a 20 year old car.
He's talking about everyone on SupraMania, in case it needed any clarification.



And here's what he thinks about me personally:

I'd ask how much a poorly self taught grease monkey who's unable to rise above doing half-assed work for them in a so-called performance shop gets but among the more knowledgeable in the community it's already well known.
What the hell does that even mean?!? :biglaugh: He complains about the student's spelling, but then makes nonsense run-on sentences. The student is expected to be green, and maybe act a little childish sometimes, but what's JJ's excuse?

jetjock
May 31st, 2007, 07:55 PM
Lol. Anyone else? Get in while the gettin's good ;)

mattjk
May 31st, 2007, 07:58 PM
here we go! pm from mr. psycho! LOL


Jeez tubby, I had no idea you were buddies with the Aaron. Same with your pal. I mean, how could I possible know that? You are soooo easy.

Standby, something special is in the works for you. A perfectly legal little lesson in dealing with strangers. Since it'll take some time to arrive I'm only mentioning it in the hope you'll make a connection :)

bigaaron
May 31st, 2007, 08:04 PM
Lol. Anyone else? Get in while the gettin's good ;)

Oh sure, now play the victim. :nono:

suprahero
May 31st, 2007, 08:28 PM
I know we are all different and we can't all be best of friends, but the name calling is a bit childish.

Jetjock has helped me out with my car in PM's a time or two, and he knows what he's talking about. He does lack patience with people not willing to search for themselves, but he doesn't deny that. Alot of members on here are quick to yell at a newbie for not searching.

As far as good people go, I know none nicer than Aaron. He flew across the country to help me with my car for FREE. Not many people on this site are that willing to help a total stranger. He didn't know me at all. I get poked at a little for typing in www.driftmotion.com but He's earned my respect and friendship. I hate to see him and JJ go at it, because we need both on this site.

As for Mattjk........I can't stand him or his beautiful red car that will never let me be number one on cardomain....................:biglaugh:

bigaaron
May 31st, 2007, 08:35 PM
I wish it was not that way too, but the guy is constantly belittling people and making blatantly rude comments. I don't know how he gets away with it. Anyone else would be kicked for the type of things he says to people. Just because someone doesn't do exactly what he says is no reason to tear them a new one. People come to forums to learn and to get different people's opinions. If there was only one person allowed to answer questions it would not be a forum at all.

AF1JZ
May 31st, 2007, 08:53 PM
I am really speechless about this whole thread. I've only been here about a year now and I am absolutely addicted to this forum. I'll be honest, this forum has deteriorated my marriage and it sucks. But, I still come back. I've seen nothing but good things from Aaron, Jay, and Matt. But, JJ has really proved himself this time. Especially being the resident electronics person. Like sending threats to Matt. That kinda behavior shouldn't be tolerated. I hate to say it in a good way, but this forum is my life now since I love tooling with the supra. You can say what you want about me, even though you really don't know to much about me. I love this forum and I'm going to keep coming back no matter what. Stuff like this is going to steer away the new guys that need technical help and we don't want that.

So, why all the hostility guys? Lead by example.

I'm sorry if I'm out of place by saying this. But, the majority of us are adults, so act like it. Just my 2 cents.

mattjk
May 31st, 2007, 09:18 PM
http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs14-stk.htm

i just reported jj as an internet stalker :)

johnathan1
May 31st, 2007, 09:31 PM
Where are the moderators? I think JetJock needs to be banned for threatening another member.

mattjk
May 31st, 2007, 09:40 PM
Jeez tubby, I had no idea you were buddies with the Aaron. Same with your pal. I mean, how could I possible know that? You are soooo easy.

Standby, something special is in the works for you. A perfectly legal little lesson in dealing with strangers. Since it'll take some time to arrive I'm only mentioning it in the hope you'll make a connection :)
Do not contact me in any way in the future.

I have saved all conversations and have reported you to the local police department for cyberstalking.

I forwarded that to supracentral.

Dunckel
May 31st, 2007, 11:17 PM
i think this thread should be deleted sooooon. with so many people on this site, there are going to be some personalities that we don't all get along with. there are a few i have run across so far. and i am sure i have pissed off a few people, unintentionally of course, but i can't please everyone. i am who i am, i answer questions to the best of my knowledge with my personality thrown in. i think we should all go grab a bite to eat and shake hands. WHO'S COMIN WITH ME??

jetjock
May 31st, 2007, 11:37 PM
No, it should stay. It's way too revealing. Entertaining too. The fat kid is just killing me....quite the legal eagle he is. I hope he's not planning on quitting his day job...

OneJoeZee
June 1st, 2007, 12:42 AM
I am thoroughly entertained.

Continue.

-Joe (not taking sides)

starscream5000
June 1st, 2007, 05:59 AM
I'm not taking sides either, but maybe the people with personal issues in this thread should keep it to PM's...

mattjk
June 1st, 2007, 09:47 AM
jj. stop sending me pm's. i just deleted the one you sent to me without reading it. this is getting really creepy. if you have something to say, post it in public, otherwise, go away.

jetjock
June 1st, 2007, 10:04 AM
Sorry tubby, thought you wanted more evidence for your little prosecution. Odd that you'd delete (uh huh) something you think would work in your favor but can't say I blame you since I delete yours too. Seems we're on the same wavelength there.

It should already be obvious I have little to say about this in public. That seems to be your thing, even to the point of posting PMs. Classy. Myself, I always take care of business in private and will continue to do so. Since further posting by you would mean needlessly spinning your wheels I'll assume we're done for now.

Dunckel
June 1st, 2007, 02:38 PM
so doc, did we ever get the problem with your car fixed? :biglaugh:

johnathan1
June 1st, 2007, 03:23 PM
Isn't someone going to do something?? I can't believe the moderators let cockjock insult and treat people this way...ALL THE TIME.

In fact, since JetJock (Gary) can so freely insult, threaten, belittle, and basically say whatever the fuck he wants, with no moderator action...then I don't see why we can't do the same to him.

Here's the psycho himself:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/johnathan1/suprajetjock.jpg

Have at it.

suprahero
June 1st, 2007, 03:35 PM
If you're having problems with someone or some post, you can click the exclamation point right beside your green light. Or send a pm to SC. I know you know this already Johnathan, but just thought I would put it up here for some of the newer members. It doesn't look like a friendly end is in sight, but like I said we're all different and we can't all get along. I'm friends with most people on here and I wouldn't expect anyone to want to be friends with someone calling them names.

johnathan1
June 1st, 2007, 03:47 PM
I HAVE reported his posts. NOTHING has been done, because SC is exactly like cockjock, they are both dicks, he probably agrees with him. I must say tho, JetJock is definitely more psycho.

Dunckel
June 1st, 2007, 03:52 PM
I HAVE reported his posts. NOTHING has been done, because SC is exactly like cockjock, they are both dicks, he probably agrees with him. I must say tho, JetJock is definitely more psycho.
ohh shit! it's officially hit the fan.

HIDPLANET
June 1st, 2007, 04:04 PM
Who cares about threads and shit.....
No sense in reporting anything just as useless as it is to name call or threaten people online. Its ALL pointless and people need to STFU and get over it.

jetjock
June 1st, 2007, 04:27 PM
^ Now he makes sense. Man, these teenyboppers sure are raging balls of hormones. I dunno how they get through the day without wiggin' out at least once. I ask ya, who appears more psycho?

Lol, great photo. I get better looking every day....

Big Wang Bandit
June 1st, 2007, 04:28 PM
I like the hair. :icon_surp

jetjock
June 1st, 2007, 04:49 PM
Thanks, always had a decent head of it. Shorter these days because the public demands I look distinguished. Go figure. Have you seen Jonathan's btw? Let me find that pic. It's the least I can do....

johnathan1
June 1st, 2007, 05:11 PM
I ask ya, who appears more psycho?


You do. I'm not the one threatening people through PMs.

Dunckel
June 1st, 2007, 05:13 PM
nice car jj.

jetjock
June 1st, 2007, 05:19 PM
It's old but well cared for, as is everything I own.

Now that we've covered my hair and car I hope we can move on. What Johnathan doesn't seem to understand is his pal took a swipe at me. That made him fair game. That's the way it is in life. He seems to have dealt with it and so should Johnathan.

I almost never go back and forth in this sort of nonsense on forums because I receive very little gratification from it. I usually post one or two replies then let others have the last word. Makes them feel better. Makes me feel better too, knowing it places me a cut above the common denominator, at least in that regard. And while I may be abrasive on the surface I take pride is never lowering myself to the some of the other levels seen here. It's one reason I can honestly say this stuff is more amusing than anything else.

What people who gratify themselves by getting their licks in don't understand is that it in itself is gratifying to me. You'd think such people would've figured out that, having the personality I do, I must have long ago developed to a fine degree the ability to prevent others from emotionally victimizing me. Look at it this way: I'm immune to insults because I'm a carrier. All it does on their end is victimize themselves a lot in exchange for feeling better a little. All it does my end is generate a smile.

Yellow 13
June 1st, 2007, 05:28 PM
What people who gratify themselves by getting their licks in don't understand is that it in itself is gratifying to me. You'd think such people would've figured out that, having the personality I do, I must have long ago developed to a fine degree the ability to prevent others from emotionally victimizing me. Look at it this way: I'm immune to insults because I'm a carrier. All it does on their end is victimize themselves a lot in exchange for feeling better a little. All it does my end is generate a smile.

All you had to do was say "I'm rubber you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you".

No need to boost your ego with big words.

AF1JZ
June 1st, 2007, 05:32 PM
So JJ, you're like what, 50 maybe 60 years old and you are acting like a 13 year old? Don't fuck it up for the rest of us that are mature enough not to act like children. Just because you are a know it all as it seem, doesn't mean everyone else is. Some of use actually use this forum for its resources.


Ric- you're right, he's acting like this is SF.

johnathan1
June 1st, 2007, 05:43 PM
It's old but well cared for, as is everything I own.

Now that we've covered my hair and car I hope we can move on. What Johnathan doesn't seem to understand is his pal took a swipe at me. That made him fair game. That's the way it is in life. He seems to have dealt with it and so should Johnathan.

I almost never go back and forth in this sort of nonsense on forums because I receive very little gratification from it. I usually post one or two replies then let others have the last word. Makes them feel better. Makes me feel better too, knowing it places me a cut above the common denominator, at least in that regard. And while I may be abrasive on the surface I take pride is never lowering myself to the some of the other levels seen here. It's one reason I can honestly say this stuff is more amusing than anything else.

What people who gratify themselves by getting their licks in don't understand is that it in itself is gratifying to me. You'd think such people would've figured out that, having the personality I do, I must have long ago developed to a fine degree the ability to prevent others from emotionally victimizing me. Look at it this way: I'm immune to insults because I'm a carrier. All it does on their end is victimize themselves a lot in exchange for feeling better a little. All it does my end is generate a smile.

You are a fucking psycho. Total nut. I feel sorry for you.

Now that I see you are mentally ill, I will keep quiet.

I<3Supras
June 1st, 2007, 05:55 PM
People should just learn not to care what other people say or think about them. If u don't care about the person why care what they say about u or the people u know. I know its hard for some of u people feeling u have to have the last word and win the conversation, making the other person feel dumb, etc .Its not like ur gonna change there mind on what they think about u. just ignore them. Simple as that life moves on. No need to get all crazy over things like these. Makes life way easier. As far as threatening goes now thats differen't something should be done about that.

Dunckel
June 1st, 2007, 06:51 PM
u have to have the last word and win the conversation

last word FTMFW!!

bigaaron
June 1st, 2007, 09:03 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v379/BigAaron/driftmotion/Boschfprelay.jpg

OneJoeZee
June 1st, 2007, 09:52 PM
^And finally back on topic with useful information after like 2 pages of bickering.

+1 for Aaron!

Jeff Lange
June 1st, 2007, 10:20 PM
WTF is this? Thread closed.

GrimJack
June 2nd, 2007, 12:30 AM
I'll add a bit to this.

If someone reports a post, the moderation team gets notified, but the reaction isn't instant, unless you get lucky and the mod for that area happens to be online and paying attention at the time.

It could actually take a couple days - I know this sounds like total madness in the information age, where everything is instant, but some of us are actually outside working on our cars instead of living on the site.

Furthermore, some of us stop paying attention to threads after they hit a certain size. I stopped reading this one quite some time ago, and didn't realize what kind of drama was going on in here until now.

Supracentral
June 2nd, 2007, 08:55 AM
And I've been off the Internet for the last week except for a couple of minutes on unbearable cellphone access.

I bought a new house, moved, etc. This place gets too much of my time normally, this week it didn't get much at all.

So I wasn't here to deal with this bullshit. I just got back online to a flooded inbox. Jonathan calling me names, etc.

HINT: THERE IS A LARGE STAFF HERE, IF I DON'T REPLY, I MIGHT NOT BE GETTING YOUR MESSAGES, TRY SOMEONE ELSE!

There are times this place makes me sick, this is one of them.

What, I can't go away for a week without you all acting like a pack of royal fucktards??!?!

Fuck.